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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Question and comments on Originality => Topic started by: alpina on February 16, 2020, 17:07:59

Title: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 16, 2020, 17:07:59
A few years ago, disappointed with the photocopy data card supplied by Mercedes classic centre. I set out to recreate
the data card, which I could then print onto card for the correct look and feel. This was a small side project for my
Own use.
However after sharing what I had done with the forum, I have produced data cards for a few other members.
At that time I was only reproducing only one version of card for a 280SL.

From time to time since them, I have returned to the project collecting card details from early 230SLs – later 280SLs.
The technical manual details 4 versions of the Data Card. I now believe there is at least 7. I have 3 versions for a 230SL
1 for the 250SL and 3 for the 280SL.
Information for the 280SL is pretty much complete, front and rear of card and pink version.
Information on the 230SL and 250SL Is proving harder to find. I don’t know if they are just single sided or if the language
translation is printed on the rear as per the 280SL. I would be interested to see an early original card.

The cards below are recreations of the various versions of data card. Note the details on the cards do not relate to an actual car.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Jordan on February 16, 2020, 17:49:35
Very nice job.  I only have a photocopy of the front of my 230SL data card but it is almost identical to the third one you have posted with the large 5 left of the type.   The only difference is the number font on the first two lines.  Mine are fatter with the zero's being more square on the corners like the 250SL card but the 3's being sloped down on the bottom.  The lower rows, starting with the engine number, look the same.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: John Betsch - "SADIE" on February 16, 2020, 21:02:05
You mentioned that you may think there are additional versions of data cards. 

MY data card is "very close" to the "5" version but there are some differences in box separation etc with  a large number 3 instead of the five.  This is for a May, 1965 230SL produced car.

JB
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 16, 2020, 21:53:24
Given all the various data cards I have come across, my theory is a car was supplied with 5 cards.  I am pretty
Sure that is the case for the 280SL  (3 beige cards and 2 pink) I have seen these numbered 1 – 5. I have also
Seen only the first 3 cards numbered with no number on the pink cards.

Info on the 230SL is harder to come by. I have seen cards numbered with a large 3 and also a 5, I have also seen
A pink version of the 230sl card which leads me back to the theory that 5 cards were originally supplied.
Depending On which of those 5 cards you have, the style of the card subtly changes,  with the information below removed
From, lets call them “spare cards”
1 Fahrzeug-Daten (1 Vehicle Data)
2 Bitte bei Ersatzteilbestellung Fahrgestell-Nr. angeben (Pos.5)  (2.Please provide serial number when ordering spare parts)
3 Karte nicht im Fahrzeug aufbewahren!  (3.Do not leave data card in vehicle!)
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: lreppond on February 16, 2020, 22:29:11
Impressive work.  I believe the card I received from the classic center was was a photocopy Of the pink card (280SL Version 3). Everything looks identical in terms of setup. 
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Benz Dr. on February 17, 2020, 00:00:15
Make sure that you're not stepping on any toes. MB is very sensitive to anyone using their logo. It took several years for them to quit bugging me about using Benz Barn which was my original company name. Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Paul Cain on February 19, 2020, 16:49:42
Alpina Ltd.
Here is an example of what the Classic Center sent for my 1965 230 SL. 
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 19, 2020, 19:14:17
Hi Paul,
I shoud have your card finshed later today / tomorrow. :)
DM
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 114015 on February 20, 2020, 03:18:22

Hey Paul !
Oh, your car has got a softtop (as seen on the pics)  - very nice!
Your datacard shows code 41/5, so again a car delivered without softtop ex factory!
So yours was retrofitted.


Good luck,


Achim


Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: neelyrc on February 20, 2020, 05:05:16
.......  I am pretty Sure that is the case for the 280SL  (3 beige cards and 2 pink) I have seen these numbered 1 – 5. I have also
Seen only the first 3 cards numbered with no number on the pink cards.........
My 280SL was supplied with beige cards numbered 1-3 and two unnumbered pink cards.  I also obtained a copy of my data card from the classic center.  It was numbered “4”. 

I thus surmised that this card number 4 was used for internal purposes only at the factory and not distributed with the car.  Does anyone have a number 4 data card other than a copy received from the classic center?
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Peter on February 20, 2020, 09:37:19
No, I received from MB a copy of card #3
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Paul Cain on February 20, 2020, 16:20:51
Alplina Ltd. turned around my datacard VIN specific details in about 4 hours. A quick trip down to the local printer on heavy card stock and done.

I received a super high res. pdf image of all cards, both sides.  What a phenomenal resource - Thank you AlpinaLtd!

See attached.

Paul Cain
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: EeVeeWee on February 20, 2020, 21:26:14
I'm interested in getting a decent version of the 3th one from the 230SL data card (the one with the "5") instead of the bad copy I have now.  :)
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 20, 2020, 22:13:14
EeVeeWee.  PM sent.

DM
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 66andBlue on February 22, 2020, 02:13:05
The data card that came with my 1964 230SL looks different from those that are posted here.
Mine has additional information on the right (green double-headed arrow) and the Übernahmetag data are printed in.
The Übernahmetag data read: DB 600-50-13 80.000 S.T. 4, 64
The owner was instructed to keep this card with the car papers.
I believe the card is a copy and not the original one.

Fortunately I know when the car was on the assembly line because it is listed in Engelen's book: May 15, 1964.
Most likely the car arrived at (or left) the MB distribution center in Jacksonville, FL (JAX) on August 8, 1964 and was sold to the original unknown owner there. At that time Mercedes cars were sold by the Mercedes Studebaker subsidiary.
The second owner in Bradenton, FL bought the car in 1967 and in 1992 it went to the third in Ohio.

So, what do the expert think about the items indicated by the green arrows?
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 114015 on February 22, 2020, 03:59:51

Alfred...,
Very nice.  :)

Your data card looks to me as a usual one for an early 1964 230 SL.

You do not have inscribed the "Übernahmetag" (date of delivery) in the field "Übernahmetag". Your date Aug 8, 1964 is manually printed elsewhere.
 ;)
The inscriptions therein are only company-internal markings of the datacard-printing-company (Hummel AG) and mean that the "editorial version" of your data card (most likely datacard blank) is for DB (= Daimler Benz) and as of '04 64'  - so, a bit earlier than your car was built.
The design of our datacards changed pretty often - also during the production time of the 230SL.

Yes, I have seen DCs more often with the star on the right side but not together with that comment (keep with car papers) and still including the lock key numbers (that you correctly blanked out here). That doesn't make sense to me.
Not so usual.

Are you sure yours is a copy? You car is so original, you surely have got all the booklets, owners manuals and paperwork with your car, haven't you?
Also, your datacard looks pink-ish to me...; and there was a pink copy with these cars - at least with most....

 ;) ;)
Achim
Title: 1596
Post by: 114015 on February 22, 2020, 04:12:29

Yes, Alfred,
Just found a pic of one (!) datacard like yours in my archive, bit older than your car. White datacard (not yellow, not pink) with blue star, blue "Bei den Wagenpapieren aufbewahren" and blue "1 Fahrzeug-Daten"
... and the key code numbers also printed in.

Very low pic quality, very hard to read the numbers,
and the original "Kraftfahrzeugbrief" is/was attached. Initial Frankfurt registry.

So, you have got a "regular" datacard.
 ;)

Achim
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 114015 on February 22, 2020, 04:20:24
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Alplina Ltd. turned around my datacard VIN specific details in about 4 hours. A quick trip down to the local printer on heavy card stock and done.

I received a super high res. pdf image of all cards, both sides.  What a phenomenal resource - Thank you AlpinaLtd!

Gentlemen...!
Are you really sure about this? Five prints? I am not convinced...!
I think the 230 SL (not Ralph's 280 - that are (too) many reprints),
but I think the 230 SL has got three datacards for/to the customer at the most!
One yellow one with all numbers, one yellow one with the blacked-out key numbers
and perhaps additionally a white one (I have one copy of those) or a pink one perhaps.
At the most.
But five...?
I don't think so, I have never seen that before! What sense does/did it make to Daimler to have that many prints and even identical ones -  and all only for the customer?
Well, this might have been the case with the 280ies but I doubt with the 230ies.

Or if so - show me the proof please.
Please... ;)


Best,
Achim

(heavy-weight datacard knowledge collector)

Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 22, 2020, 11:04:34
I would like to make It clear, I am not professing to be an expert in Data cards. All I can comment on is what
I have seen and collected for my own purposes. I do believe that the 230 had many different style cards.
These cards were numbered up to 5.
I have no idea if these are copy cards or cards supplied with the car. They just exist. I have no interest in the
Reasons why. Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want.

When I received my data card from MB in 2014, I was disappointed with poor photocopy they supply. I thought
I could improve it. So I set out recreate my data card to give it the look of an original.
After people saw the result I had a number of requests to do the same for them. At that time I could only prepare
A card for a 280SL, based on my own.
Over time I started collecting the different styles of cards for all models, slowly reproducing original look reproductions.
With the growing number of people disappointed with the MB copy, I thought I could help. Therefore I offered to recreate
Their copy.  In the same way I recreated the Engineering tags / Decals. (which I donated to the group.)
I’m sure know one apricates the time and effort that goes into every recreation.
I am just glad that everyone who I have helped is happy and pleased with the result, nothing more nothing less.

Best
DM.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: mrfatboy on February 22, 2020, 13:11:35
There has been much discussion of this subject this week here in San Diego. The consensus so far is that Alpina has done a fantastic job reproducing the ENTIRE set (1-5 of data cards that was generated for our cars.

However, 114015 is correct that the car buyer didn't receive all all 5 cards. Most likely the 3 cards as he states.

Card 1 - full card for owners files
Card 2 - card with key codes blanked to be kept with car for ordering parts at dealer.
Card 5?- pink card (non rounded edge card) which is that old style carbon copy card stock). Also note that the pink cards are not double sided. They also didn't have extra printing on edges and star logo.

The other cards in theory were suppose to go to MB for recording keeping or internal purposes.

Other members here also believe that the above MB system was not always followed correctly by dealship personel and that's why that some of us received extra or different numbered cards.

And yes. There are many versions of the card.  Even font changes.  I have seen two original 230 cards that have an earlier font style as well as the later font style used on 280 cards.

Well... That's the theory so far anyway 🤣
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: BOTIGER1970 on February 22, 2020, 19:06:14
I'm sorry to be a rock, but when I ordered my data card from Classic Center, all I received was a copy on paper, no cards.  Are these original looking cards available for purchase?  I am a new member who has just started the restoration of a 1970 280SL and am looking for any assistance on obtaining at least what looks like the original data cards for my car, if available?
Thanks,
Mark
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 22, 2020, 21:27:01
Mark. PM sent.  :)
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: EeVeeWee on February 22, 2020, 21:35:16
The data cards from alpinaltd are amazing, just like real!
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: neelyrc on February 23, 2020, 06:31:59
There has been much discussion of this subject this week here in San Diego. The consensus so far is that Alpina has done a fantastic job reproducing the ENTIRE set (1-5 of data cards that was generated for our cars.

However, 114015 is correct that the car buyer didn't receive all all 5 cards. Most likely the 3 cards as he states.

Card 1 - full card for owners files
Card 2 - card with key codes blanked to be kept with car for ordering parts at dealer.
Card 5?- pink card (non rounded edge card) which is that old style carbon copy card stock). Also note that the pink cards are not double sided. They also didn't have extra printing on edges and star logo.

The other cards in theory were suppose to go to MB for recording keeping or internal purposes.

Other members here also believe that the above MB system was not always followed correctly by dealship personel and that's why that some of us received extra or different numbered cards.

And yes. There are many versions of the card.  Even font changes.  I have seen two original 230 cards that have an earlier font style as well as the later font style used on 280 cards.

Well... That's the theory so far anyway 🤣

I want to add a few comments.  As I indicated in reply 10 above I did receive 5 data cards with my car.  My car was a European Tourist delivery, code 707. That being the case, the number of cards that I received may not be the same as for cars delivered through a dealer.  There were however a significant number of Tourist deliveries. A note in our Technical Manual indicates that in 1964 about 38% of sales or over 4000 cars were Tourist deliveries. This was apparently the highest year.

In addition to cards 1 and 2, I also received a card 3.  Card 3 is printed on the same beige Hummel card stock as card 1 and 2.  It does not include the large embossed MB star.  Also, the box in the lower right hand corner is empty.  The back of this card is completely blank.

The other two cards I received were pink.  They do not have rounded corners, the box in the lower right hand corner is empty and the back of the cards are blank.  These cards do not have the vertical printing in the left margin but there is some printing below the border near the left margin.  The characters are only partially visible as if chopped off.  The printing on the card is of a lesser quality than that on the beige cards.

I also have a copy of a card 4 which I obtained from the Classic Center by email a few years ago.  It appears to be the same as card 3 except it is imprinted with the number 4.  It contains vertical printing in the left margin and printing below the border near the left margin.

The vertical printing on the left end of the cards and the printing at the bottom of the cards below the border varies from card to card.

I intended to attach images of all these cards here however I was unable to find card 2 in my files today.  If I turn it up I will post later. The others are included here.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 23, 2020, 08:55:20
Thank you Ralph. that confirms what i knew.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: mrfatboy on February 23, 2020, 22:07:39
Does anybody know what the Black Dot is indicating in the upper left corner of a data card means?  I have seen data cards with and without it.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: dirkbalter on February 24, 2020, 15:49:20
I also got my data cards from alpina. Great quality, love them.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 114015 on February 25, 2020, 00:21:31
(https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=30464.0;attach=244392)

One little hint, Gentlemen....,
it is "Schicht-Nr." ... not "Schlcht-Nr."
and means as much as "(work-)shift number"

Rgds,
A.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 114015 on February 25, 2020, 00:45:22
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I would like to make It clear, I am not professing to be an expert in Data cards. All I can comment on is what
I have seen and collected for my own purposes. I do believe that the 230 had many different style cards.
These cards were numbered up to 5.
I have no idea if these are copy cards or cards supplied with the car. They just exist. I have no interest in the
Reasons why. Everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want.



Oh no no,  no
I did not anyhow criticize you or your work, Alpina,
that was  not the point of my request.
You are doing an excellent piece of work here, absolutely no discussion.

This was not a critique, I just wanted to learn and understand
mainly how many copies of datacards naturally existed on a 230 SL.
You say up to five, and the same would hold true for the 280 SL, correct?

Now I have got another couple of questions - to all of you.
Again, not to complain but to discuss, and because I am just curious - after collecting knowledge on datacards for about 30 years, there are still many questions open...

1) Ralph has got physically 4 copies he presented here, yellow cards 1 and 3, and additionally no. 2 that is supposingly somewhere (most likely in the owners manual or the service manual - at least that's where I found some...  :D )
.. and two pink ones.
That makes five in total.
And then there is the "sixth" one - no. 4 coming from the Daimler archive.

So my question 1) is,
are you the only Gentleman with 6 datacards in total,
or are there more members out...?

I have never seen anyone before you, Ralph, who owned that many datacards - 6 in total.
Or with other words, could it be that your both pink ones are completely identical,
which should not usually be the case - and you received only _two_ copies of the pink ones because you are such a nice guy...,
and all the other 280 owners have only got one pink one...?

Please, ist this possibly the case?

2nd Q:
Was there ever a 230 SL delivered ex-factory with 3 data cards...
We were assuming so (2 yellow and one pink or white one) or were there probably only two delivered to the customer?
I just don't know for sure, that's why I am asking.
Does anybody actually have three cards - among the 230 owners?
With very original cars?
Like Mike Hughes, MBPaul (who is even 1st owner) or Michael Benett (MichaelB) who once oned a beautiful all-original 230 SL ?

I am just curious and asking and learning,
before I also order my 1st set of complete and all-original looking datacards.

Looking very much forward to your responses...


Best,
Achim

Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 49er on February 25, 2020, 01:32:14
Only 1 pink card came with mine which was unfortunately lost during the cars “awakening” 10 years ago. I, like others, have printed the copy that I got from Tom Hanson on pink card stock.

John
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: mrfatboy on February 25, 2020, 01:39:39
(https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=30464.0;attach=244392)

One little hint, Gentlemen....,
it is "Schicht-Nr." ... not "Schlcht-Nr."
and means as much as "(work-)shift number"

Rgds,
A.



66andblue caught this typo just after I posted.  That was an easy fix.

Now to the hard question.  What does that "Z" mean? 🤣
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: neelyrc on February 25, 2020, 03:09:13
Only 1 pink card came with mine which was unfortunately lost during the cars “awakening” 10 years ago. I, like others, have printed the copy that I got from Tom Hanson on pink card stock.

John

John, out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what bold number (1,2,3, 4, etc.) is printed on your Classic Center card at the right hand margin?
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: mdsalemi on February 25, 2020, 15:21:32
Mine was an awful "copy" too, that I got from the CC when they gave them out free. One of the reasons why it's awful is I don't think it is a copy of an original, it is a print off of a bad microfiche...no copy machine ever made such a bad print, but off of a microfiche? Sure. I believe that.

For you youngsters out there, microfiche is basically film storage "analog" copies of paper originals...

I heard the San Diego crowd was discussing this and JonnyB asked if I had one so I sent my original bad TIFF file I got from the CC. To what end the SD crowd is working this, I don't know...
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 49er on February 25, 2020, 16:24:41
John, out of curiosity, if you don’t mind sharing, what bold number (1,2,3, 4, etc.) is printed on your Classic Center card at the right hand margin?
Ralph, the copy I received was a "No. 1" card. It wasn't until I came upon this thread started by alpinaltd, that I found out all these other cards existed. Like I said earlier, I printed it on pink card stock and for me, it is close enough too the original card that was lost. :(

John
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: neelyrc on February 26, 2020, 04:49:15
Thanks John, you have the data which is what really counts! :)
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on February 28, 2020, 22:01:48
John's Data card now looking as good as new :)
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 49er on February 29, 2020, 00:24:24
 Thanks to alpinaltd, I now have a complete set of cards including the correct color pink one. As others have said, they really look amazing.

John
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: neelyrc on March 02, 2020, 04:46:40

............
1) Ralph has got physically 4 copies he presented here, yellow cards 1 and 3, and additionally no. 2 that is supposingly somewhere (most likely in the owners manual or the service manual - at least that's where I found some...  :D )
.. and two pink ones.
That makes five in total.
And then there is the "sixth" one - no. 4 coming from the Daimler archive.

So my question 1) is,
are you the only Gentleman with 6 datacards in total,
or are there more members out...?

I have never seen anyone before you, Ralph, who owned that many datacards - 6 in total.
Or with other words, could it be that your both pink ones are completely identical,
which should not usually be the case - and you received only _two_ copies of the pink ones because you are such a nice guy...,
and all the other 280 owners have only got one pink one...?

Please, ist this possibly the case?..........

Achim, I searched through the manuals and even paged through my BBB thinking that the elusive Nr. 2 card might have been used there for a book mark.  No luck yet.  Still looking!

As you can see from the images I posted, the 2 pink cards are identical, that is if you discount the fact that the ink smudges are a little different!  The quality of the printing on the pink cards is of a lesser quality than the others.  The chopped off numbers at the bottom even appear to be identical.

???????
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: neelyrc on March 02, 2020, 05:15:03
John's Data card now looking as good as new :)

DM
I noticed that the Nr. 2 card you prepared for John includes red lettering in the box in the lower right hand corner.  Is the use of red lettering in this box based on an original Nr. 2 card you have?

The images of the cards you have prepared and posted are really excellent. Congratulations on the great work.👏👏

Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: alpina on March 02, 2020, 10:29:29
Hi Ralph,
Thank you for your kind words.
Yes the red lettering is correct based on the reference cards I have. You can see some of my other recreations here https://www.facebook.com/W113Datacards/
It would seem it is not only me who is disappointed with the photocopy they received from MB. I just took the time (a long time at that) to do something about improving
my Data card.

best regards
DM.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Chris Long on March 02, 2020, 20:03:38
Just want to say that you for the ones you just produced for me.

Ultra responsive and look great. Thx
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: wwheeler on March 03, 2020, 23:10:52
alpinaltd just did a set for my W111. I printed them out double sided on card stock and they look great! What a fantastic idea!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: 114015 on March 06, 2020, 12:33:28
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Now to the hard question.  What does that "Z" mean?

Mrfatboy,

Unfortunately, I also don't know what the (silly) "Z" with the little dot underneath means... ???
Have seen that as well numerous times
but haven't got any explanatioin for that yet.  ::)

Maybe Manfred Luft knows ... I can ask him.

Achim

Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: TJMart on March 10, 2020, 20:37:51
DM also did a set of cards for me. Fantastic !!
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Shvegel on August 13, 2020, 23:41:19
I have dealt with alpinaltd over the past couple of weeks.  I find him to be very responsive and willing to help whenever possible.  I deal with many contractors and deal in dollar amounts far higher that we are dealing with here.  Having someone who cares about what they are doing is rare and frankly very refreshing.  I tried to print my own cards on a lazer printer but my printer didn’t like the 100# cover stock I was using and kept slipping register.  Alpinaltd was kind enough to add a little material at the margins so I could try and get it To print.  Unfortunately, the 100# paper was still too heavy but I switched to 80# cover stock and it printed flawlessly.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: mrfatboy on August 13, 2020, 23:53:37
If you want the 100# stock you can go to Fedex Office or similar. You can also print out the pink cards. Just bring the pdf with you and they will do everything else. Even cut them if you like 😀
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: wwheeler on August 14, 2020, 14:55:44
I did the Fed-ex route and they made several copies until the borders match perfectly front to back. It was all of $6 or so. Bargain of the century! I also agree with everything Shvegal said.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Shvegel on August 14, 2020, 19:59:20
As someone who’s father used to bring home boxes of IBM punch cards for his children to play with I actually think the 80# card stock is actually a better match for the original weight.

White Thick Paper Cardstock - for... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00RU6IGAS?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Norm on August 14, 2020, 21:00:18
Another satisfied client :)

Thank you DM

Norm
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: MikeSimon on August 15, 2020, 11:53:11
Very interesting post. I always had one original data card for my 1971 280SL with the paperwork. The other day, I looked through all the stuff and discovered that someone had taped a second card, with the key-numbers punched out, to the inside of the original maintenance booklet. So, I have 1 and 2. Never had or saw a pink card.
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: Chris Long on September 18, 2020, 19:51:50
I had some made but does anyone have the ability to print for me?
Title: Re: Data Card – Disappointed with the photocopy from MB ?
Post by: mrfatboy on September 18, 2020, 20:05:45
FedEx Office or UPS store can do it easily.