Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: Harry on November 19, 2018, 00:17:16

Title: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Harry on November 19, 2018, 00:17:16
I am replacing the timing chain on this car and I have the new chain from my local MB dealer.  The issue is that there is no clip to secure the new chain.  In reviewing the posts on timing chains, it appears that I have the version that requires crimping (see photo).  I had hoped I had the version that I remember where there is a long single clip that secures the removable link.
Apparently there is a crimping tool for this type of chain?  Does anyone know where I can find one and is there some advice on how to do this?  Better yet, is the style with the clip still available?  I may need to break the chain apart again during my engine work.
Thanks,
Harry
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Tyler S on November 19, 2018, 02:33:50
Harry, Part #000-997-05-98
I think the clip style is no longer used so they now supply this with e-clips.
Just make sure you stuff plenty of rags down the chain galley incase you drop one.
If you buy an entire Iwis or Febi chain it should come with the long style clip for the master link.
Crimpers are expensive, I have seen others weld a blob on the pins to keep the link plate in place. Perform that one at your own risk!
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: ja17 on November 19, 2018, 04:13:37
Harry,
Yes you have the crimp style master link. (special tool required).  You should be able to order one of the "clip styles" from the usual suppliers on this site.
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Benz Dr. on November 19, 2018, 05:17:54
I use two ball peen hammers to widen out the end of the crimp style chains. Done right, it will never come apart. I normally see the master links with E clips on them and it's the diesel engines that have the crimp style.
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Pawel66 on November 19, 2018, 07:05:40
When replacing timing chain in my 280SL last year, I ordered the chain from MB. I got the crimp style chain. I had no tool and I was afraid to play with it, so I just order the link piece from MB that I got in no time and used that.

Do not remember the part number, but I just took it from the EPC. If you do not have the EPC, you may just call them.
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Harry on November 19, 2018, 11:44:22
Thanks very much.  I’ll be calling the dealer this morning.
Harry
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Pawel66 on November 19, 2018, 11:52:25
Check if this fits: A0009970598, I took it from 113042 parts list, it should be available. This is the number I took (same part for 280SL). It came with two clips, as on the picture in the other post.

Please follow the advise from a fellow member - put lots of rags in the chain galley - you will definitely drop one of the clips while clipping the chain together.
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: ja17 on November 24, 2018, 16:04:36
Yes the tiny "e" clips are easily lost or will launch themselves to parts unknown. Coat the clips and link with grease, it acts like glue to keep the little parts from falling away and getting lost.
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: Pawel66 on November 24, 2018, 19:00:41
That's a great tip!  :)
Title: Re: 1966 230SL Timing Chain
Post by: MikeSimon on November 24, 2018, 22:08:11
That's a great tip!  :)

My sentiments exactly!! A generous dab of grease on the tip of a long rode, for example, has saved my a... several times when trying to retrieve a piece of non-ferrous, non-magnetic alloy out of a cavity of an engine...
Kudos to Joe A. to bring that up!