Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => W11x chassis cars => Topic started by: Radu G on November 07, 2018, 13:52:48

Title: What is this elastic cable
Post by: Radu G on November 07, 2018, 13:52:48
What is item 288 called "Elastic Cable to Retain Cover Rails in EPC? How is it attached to the seat? Anybody with a W111 or 112 has a picture?

Thank you,
Radu
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: hkollan on November 07, 2018, 17:08:01
Hi,

It is basically what it says, a white rubber band (item #288) with a hook attached at each end.
The idea is to make the cover rail (item #286) slide forward and back again on the seat frame when the seat is moved forward and back. The rubber band will retract the cover when the seat is moved back, preventing it from protruding in the footwell.
Doesn’t work too well from my experience.
The rubber will only last for so long due to age, and eventually break.

Hans K
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: Radu G on November 07, 2018, 19:00:43
Thank you Hans. I am missing both of them and the right one is always coming out due to my wife and daughter always moving the seat back and forth (the nerve).
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: wwheeler on November 08, 2018, 05:28:33
Hi Radu,

I went through this not too long ago. I believe I actually bought this from the Classic center. It came with a hook at each end. Hans is right, they didn't last long because the rubber band oxidized, like all rubber bands do, and fell apart. Then the clips laid on the carpet until they were sucked up by the vacuum cleaner. 

If you don't have the clips, the Classic center MAY have them. If not, they are easy to make. I researched and found UV resistant rubber bands but were black and not the white as original. So what, at least the will last much longer.

If you can't find them, I'll see what I can dig up.

Wallace
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: Radu G on November 08, 2018, 12:35:53
Thanks Wallace,
Do you have any idea how long they are in the non extended state? I would look for something like short bungee cords.
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: wwheeler on November 08, 2018, 15:25:29
I do know and let me see what I can find and take some pics.
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: wwheeler on November 09, 2018, 04:29:39
First of all, the part number when I bought them was #111 910 50 69. Came with two metal hooks and an elastic band. Probably had been made 20 years ago as the band broke a month after install.

It is attached to the lower seat rail and more specifically a little hole on the outer side of the vertical post. This post bolts to the floor. You can see it in the picture you posted and the hole is in #182. The other end attaches to a hole on the chrome cover.

Now what about #304???? Do you know about that? I discovered that when I got into the elastic strap. They are covers for the seat track. I believe the W111 are covered in leather and the W108 are either plastic or covered in MBtex. They are made of unobtainium. I found a pair from a W108 (Plastic ones) and adapted them to my W111. The W108 seat rails are a bit different. See picture. One day I will cover them and install. 

I will posts some pics of the strap tomorrow as I have run out of time today.
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: wwheeler on November 10, 2018, 05:15:20
Here is the #288 modified part. Works like a champ for me. I used a black UV resistant rubber band but cannot find the size I ordered for it. There are standard sizes for these bands and I kind of remember the size I was looking for was in the middle. So I got the larger size and just had more loops around the hooks. The OAL is about 7-1/4" inches including the hooks. The OAL is NOT critical so you should be good. I am happy to share my knowledge on this very obscure part!

BTW, I was wrong in that the attachments are made on the inner side, not the outer side of the rails.

Good luck!   
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: Radu G on November 11, 2018, 13:38:06
Wallace, I did not know about #304.
Now I can see it in EPC as being present on my model. They appear to cover the vertical leg of the rails. They probably come out very easy and they get lost, that's why we didn't have them.
Title: Re: What is this elastic cable
Post by: wwheeler on November 12, 2018, 00:58:28
Precisely why they are all missing. It really dresses it up a lot believe it or not because you can see those rails from the back seat. These cars were the ultimate and having something like the seat rail exposed just didn't happen.

I suppose if I were to get it to fit correctly, I could make a pattern for the group.