Pagoda SL Group
Off Topic => Other cars => Topic started by: johnk on November 17, 2017, 03:52:11
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We've probably all seen the commercial on TV on what is your next dream car. What other cars are on your bucket list?
As discussed in another recent post mine has always been an E-type and an jaguar 140 or 150. I wanted a 190 at one time, but I am afraid I would be disappointed compared to my pagoda. I would love to find a couple of these as project cars now to restore when I retire Hopefully ten years from now. Reality is that will never happen. I can afford salting away a few project cars, but not how much my wife will want to spend in in return. My Pagoda, while bought at a very reasonble value, has indirectly cost me a fortune! All that said, if you can only have one at any price, its hard to beat a pagoda.
Whats on your bucket list?
John
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BMW 507
503 - I keep on dreaming!
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/66andBlue/200673202358_BMW507.jpg)
{corrected typo Nov-17}
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BMW 503 - I keep on dreaming!
Alfred,
the car on your pic is a 507 ...; an Elvis's car. ;)
It also says that (numbers it) on the licence plate ... ;D :D
The one pictured below is a 503 - a true Gentleman driver's car !
Especially in this color it will suit you very well . ;D ;D
...and ..., even more positive,
you can name it as "56andBlue" then. :D
Best, :)
Achim
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My favourite car:
;) :o ;D
Achim
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A Facel Vega HK500 in black. My screen saver.
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A Facel Vega HK500 in black. My screen saver.
Did you know that Paul Bracq styled the bar at the Automobile Club du Sud Ouest in Bordeaux, in the style of the Facel-Vega? I stood behind the bar while the master himself snapped my photo...and yes, for those with an artistic eye, that is an original Bracq painting behind the bar. I believe it is of a 1938 Figoni et Falaschi Talbot-Lago, but I could be wrong.
My bucket list car? A 2005/6 Ford GT. Not in the color shown, but probably the Titanium.
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A few:
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Only one
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Alfred,
the car on your pic is a 507 ...; an Elvis's car. ;)
It also says that (numbers it) on the licence plate ... ;D :D
The one pictured below is a 503 - a true Gentleman driver's car ! .....
Achim,
thanks for noticing my typo. I changed my post.
Actually I do like both models, the 503 and the 507. The American designer of these cars - Albrecht von Goertz - was certainly among the best in his profession.
Here is another 503 photo.
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/66andBlue/200673202446_BMW503.jpg)
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Are we talking bucket list cars like in cars you'd actually like to own before you die? Don't know about you guys, but a few of these are way out of my price range. Most bucket list items (a concept I actually find silly) are things that people feel they must do before they die and have a reasonable expectation to.
That said, I'm with Alfred on the 507, drop dead gorgeous. Now, maybe a ride in one would be a possible bucket list item.
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when we are only dreaming we can afford any cars we want right?
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... how about a Z8 then? Comes very close . :D ;D
Actually I do like both models, the 503 and the 507. The American designer of these cars - Albrecht von Goertz - was certainly among
But Alfred ....!?
Today you have got it with typos, have you?? ;) ;D :) ;)
Albrecht Graf Goertz was the same nationality as a very few other members here ....
but _not_ American ... sadly.
:) ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albrecht_von_Goertz
I _think_ you need a very little Sonoma Red, do you??
:) ;) :D
All best, and never mind,
Achim
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...Albrecht Graf Goertz was the same nationality as a very few other members here ....
but _not_ American ... sadly.
:) ;)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albrecht_von_Goertz
I _think_ you need a very little Sonoma Red, do you??
:) ;) :D
All best, and never mind,
Achim
Achim,
it appears that the cheap Liebfraumilch you like so much is affecting your reading/comprehension skills! 🤣
When reading the Wikipedia article did you not notice that he died as an American citizen?? I am shocked! :o
"...in 1936 he emigrated to the United States of America. He eventually moved to Los Angeles …
Goertz joined the US Army in 1940 and served for five years. After leaving the Army he drove the Paragon to New York and while driving it he accidentally encountered Raymond Loewy, the famous car designer. Loewy invited Goertz to his office, sent him to college to learn about design and later gave him a job in the Studebaker studio in Indiana."
I forgive you. ;)
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Now, now Achim and Alfred...
Goertz was a naturalized U.S. Citizen, not a birthright citizen (like me and others born in the USA) and that's the distinction. I don't think anyone, Achim, would NOT call him an American after he obtained his citizenship, a right and privilege he accelerated by serving in the US Army. Being born in Germany, one could easily say he was German; later being a US Citizen, one would also call him an American. Thus, perhaps we should call him a true German-American, being born in Germany and a German citizen until that was relinquished upon his naturalized U.S. citizenship. Getting into the nuances here, a birthright citizen can't have their citizenship revoked; a naturalized citizen can under certain circumstances mostly having to do with either misrepresentation (intentional or otherwise) on the application or dishonorable discharge in the armed services.
One should note, though you have to read between the lines, that he immigrated to the USA in 1936, AND his mother's family was of Jewish heritage. Had he stayed in Germany, who knows what might have happened to him; throughout the 1930s things started to get very dicey for those of such heritage. Thankfully he did not stay, and we are all better off for the legacy he left behind with some of the most beautiful and iconic car designs. His BMW 507 design is as lovely as the Pagoda--different, but beautiful. Right car at the wrong time.
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Model T speedster, thoroughly used, oil and track dust abounding. OK, I'll show myself out now. Jon
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Have coveted a 507 longer than I can remember ( Read -- "The Impossible Dream" !!) Saw a beautiful 503 , similar blue, on the road in the UK last year. I think Goertz was also involved with the Datsun 240Z, but not really given credit ??
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Surprised no one has said 300SL alloy.
Mine is easy, Mclaren F1
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If I had the money, an Iso Grifo. Given that the car was concieved by Giotto Bizzarini, I would fit a Lamboghini V12 in it, as a tribute. What a car that would be!
(https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Iso-Grifo-GL-350-1200x800-fc5da3c32270f098.jpg)
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Surprised no one has said 300SL alloy.
Mine is easy, Mclaren F1
Mine not.
Like the 300 SL much more.
Achim[/size]
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Now, now Achim and Alfred...
Goertz was a naturalized U.S. Citizen, not a birthright citizen
Thanks a lot for the clarification, Michael. :)
I was also already thinking into the same direction (of explanation) but realized that I would touch "careful grounds" and better shut up here.
Again thanks a lot, Michael.
it appears that the cheap Liebfraumilch you like so much is affecting your reading/comprehension skills!
No, no, Alfred ..., unfortunately not. :-[ Neither any cheap Liebfrauenmilch nor expensive Sonoma Red or anything else. No alcohol at all ..... possibly that was not good. :-[
Should have had at least an alcohol-free Hefeweizen before answering your message... :-\
Best,
Achim
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It's hard to do a bucket list with so many favorites.
As a practical minded one, it would be a utilitarian W114/W115 wagon by Binz.
For now it's what I want.
Walter
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A few:
Having owned and driven several 600's I can tell you they're everything you might imagine. For such a large car they have very nimble handling, strong acceleration, and absolutely fantastic brakes. A marvel of technical excellence seldom matched or duplicated since the first one rolled off the line in 1963.
I'd be kind of happy with an L29 Cord or a Delehay.
My bucket list includes doing my Benz Dr. tour out west, down the coast to LA, over to Las Vegas, and back through Colorado or something interesting on my way home. I better go before I can't - health is not getting any better......
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Dr Benz,
The L29 cord is my brothers favorite and some consider it the most attractive of the auburn/cord/duesenberg line-up. Have you ever been to auburn Indiana for the fall auburn/cord/duesenberg annual homecoming and auction? Its unbelievable. Well worth your trip south being an L29 fan.
John
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I've been to the ACD building which is very nice. Lots more than Full Classic cars there and worth the trip if you are anywhere in the area.
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Of all of the cars at the last ACD homecoming, this was the most notable. The Mormon Meteor, a ~1936 Duesenberg world land speed record holder. They literally left it in a open parking lot area in the middle of the city for anyone to walk up to with nobody keeping an eye on it. My understanding is the value is well over $10mm. Got to watch the owner drive it two years earlier and then talk to him personally.
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Sorry for reviving an old thread. Just found this as I am catching up with all the interesting posts as a newbie.
I am sort of torn between two cars. Born in the fifties and being German, I should say the 300SL, but my heart also has a large spot reserved for the last of the grant front engine 12-cyl Ferraris.
There is another interesting question: The car that you wish you had never let go. Should we start another thread?
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There is another interesting question: The car that you wish you had never let go. Should we start another thread?
What a painful question. I'm still kicking myself for having sold my beloved BMW 2002 inka orange whith Cromodora alloy wheels. That car took me everywhere when I was a student in France and worked and looked wonderful. It looked just like the one that was built a few years ago with all original new parts by the factory.
I sold it at a time when I thought I should not get attached to material things. How foolish!!!!!!
(http://bimmertips.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/BMW_2002_Colorado.jpg)
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I started my Bucket List in my early 40s items on this list were both stuff I like to do and some cars I like to drive and perhaps own. Over the years 3 cars ended up on the list. The first one was a Pagoda. I drove a new one in the early 60s in Montreal, it must have been a 230SL I cannot remember. I was finally fortunate enough to find one in 2013. The second one I added to the list was a BMW, i purchased a slightly used one in 1987 it was the 535is I drove this car till 1996 when I gave the car to my daughter and she sold the car in 2016 to a young BMW Mechanic.
In 2012 I was in Berlin and am Kurfürsten Damm near the Brandenburg Gate there is a Mercedes Store it only had room for one car and that car was a 2011 SL 63 AMG in this store full of Mercedes souvenirs such as all Kinds of model cars, baseball caps, t-shirts etc. Needless to say I purchased a model of the SL added it to my Bucket List as an item sometime in the future. On return to Canada I left the model car on the desk of my favorite Mercedes Salesman and told him “if you ever get a low mileage one in as a trade, call me” well in the early part of last May he called and said “Dieter come in as soon as you can, i like you to see something”
I did go in and low and behold there was the car on my Bucket List, one owner, lady driver, 34,000 km on the odometer. Needless to say I traded my daily driver for this car. I know this car is a bit thirsty, however, at my age I don’t worry about this anymore :)
My Pagoda now has a Big Brother and yes I love to drive both, I consider myself very fortunate to own two fine engineered cars.
There are other items on the list and slowly they are being crossed off :)
PS. One drawback there is not much room for the wife’s wheelchair, then the Pagoda is ready to step in, i only remove the spare wheel temporally and there is ample room for My wife’s wheelchair when I need to take her some place.
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Hi all,
This one is not realistic for me, so I will say that on my bucket list is a car that makes me feel like this one, a Lamborghini Islero. '
Mark
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BMW 3.0 CSL
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So To pay for our wedding we restored and sold this. It was not a real Ferrari but one of the approx 75 made by McBurnie (who made the 2 used on TV show Miami Vice) before he lost in court to Ferrari. The car was made for a, never to be, McBurnie dealer in Minnesota so had all the bells and whistles but also had a 1985 or 86 corvette engine (1979 chassis) and was WAY TOO MUCH TORQUE/HP for that light of a car made it almost unstreetable had to feather the gas or would just smoke the tires and slide sideways. At the time seemed like the thing to do but it was just so showstopping and always gathered a crowd everywhere we went. By the way this car was also the reason we will never have wire wheels again. We spend 4 hours and 2 boxes of Q-tips to clean those up one Saturday, and never again.
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Volvo 1800 ES
This might also fall under the heading "The car you wish you had never let go" for the simple reason that an ES just like the one pictured was my first new car, the 10th from the last one produced, in which I proposed to Lucy. We called her the "Yellow Submarine." Every once in a while I wake up from a dream that I'm going into the garage and find it parked next to the Pagoda...
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I think we all have fond memories of our first ever car and wish we would have never let it go. Here is mine. DOHC motor, 4 disc brakes and that in 1961..
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I think we all have fond memories of our first ever car and wish we would have never let it go.
I'll disagree with you on that one because some of us didn't let them go.
I've had this 50 year old Camaro for 41 years. It is my first car (as many of you know already and wish I would stop talking about it). ;D
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My parents had a Fiat like that, when they first moved together here to Virginia.
Theirs was white with black interior.
Sold it quickly(mom made new soft tops with her sewing machine twice) and got a new Buick Skylark convertible(sky blue with white interior) as they needed a hauler to bring building supplies from the store to build their new house.
Ahh the memories of beautiful cars. Those days, you took one look and could know who made it, what model it was, nowadays.....Er, Umm, I dont know, they all look the same....
Walter
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My first new car was a Volvo also. A 122s (Amazon), I bought it while in the Navy in Rhode Island in 1965. My girl friend at the time named it “New Blue” as it replaced a blue 1954 Ford. The picture below was taken before the temporary license plates were removed.
When I first went to Italy for work in 1967 I took “New Blue” with me. Two years later I drove her to Sindelfingen where I picked up my present 280 SL. I drove her across the street from the Mercedes factory and shipped her back to Alabama. Third crossing!
My brother took her over for a few years before she escaped the family. I spend a lot of effort trying to buy her back with no success. ☹️
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.../... a Volvo also. A 122s (Amazon).../...I spend a lot of effort trying to buy her back.../...
Well Ralph, I guess you want just that particular car.
Otherwise we do have some 122 Amazons over here that you may choose from ;) Just come and visit
/hans
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Toyota 2000GT, Red preferred but any colour will do.
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1958 Chrysler Imperial with 392 Hemi. 22 ft of fins and fun
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Volvo 1800 ES
Mike,
there's two of those for sale in Netherlands for €24000... not the right colour though...
- Volvo P1800 ES Overdrive, Green (https://www.autoscout24.de/angebote/volvo-p1800-es-overdrive-powersteering-extensive-history-re-benzin-gruen-099ae0e0-391e-4c84-85d6-2a041ebecf43?smid=TAF-SM-TL-S)
- Volvo P1800 ES Overdrive, Blue (https://www.autoscout24.de/angebote/volvo-p1800-es-overdrive-1973-leder-benzin-blau-08866398-b804-422b-aebc-a695f011f357?smid=TAF-SM-TL-S)
Peter