Pagoda SL Group
Off Topic => Other cars => Topic started by: Garry on May 13, 2015, 15:46:13
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Can not help myself. The next project in line. Picked up today.
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Nice split wind screen! They may be quite rare in pick-up form. What year is it?
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Mate
You clearly have more money than sense, a very tolerant Mrs, loads of space and are a dab hand with spanners!
(v cool - whack a nice 2.2 6 cylinderengine in the back and it can be your Pagoda transporter!
Or with some minor bodywork, something like this... ::)
(http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a287/23e_Heure/45BCEDCA-6D52-40F9-9E7C-D874ADF954B4.jpg)
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It's a 1964. It is an ex Post Master General van so would have been red. They were especially made for Aust dusty conditions and have a larger front overhang and higher on the roof that takes in the air. It then is channeled within the cabin roof down to the rear of the cabin then under the tray to the engine bay. That way in the dust they did not have the vents low at the rear that in Euro and U.S. Models would suck in dust.
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Garry,
with that high-up roof you're almost there to get the final result as shown on the photo sent by James :).
BTW I love that beetle body seating above the cabine. I gather that the 1st floor door is to allow escaping should Madame return home a bit earlier?
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Knowing you, it's going to rock when it'd done
We do want a full restoration thread with lots of pictures!!
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Let the Project begin. Got the Single Cab Utility home today.
The VW Kombi Ute is relatively rare particularly in the USA due to a thing called the “Chicken Tax” whereby when the tax was introduced to provide some support to the US Car market, it virtually stopped the importation of commercial utility (SUV) type vehicles and thus not many Single Cab Utes in USA.
Restoration starts tomorrow. 8) 8)
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Cool!
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Hi Garry,
At least you did not have to dig it out of the ground like this guy did - - -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsaYK9P6m68
Larry in CA see you at PUB
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Larry,
Great video. That must have been a really dry area as that Ute was in reasonable condition by the look of it. They are hard to find, mine was not that much better than the one in the video. I will have to cut and replace the bottom 10” vertical and 5” horizontal all round. Luckily Kombi panels are about 1/3 the price of MB replacement panels and all other spares for that matter yet the cars are starting to get the prices of a Pagoda two years ago. Tail lights for instance are about $50 each compared to $500 if you can find NOS MB lights. its all in the name.
See you at PUB
Garry
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Now that's what I call a project - does the treasure chest have doors both sides or is it missing a panel on the drivers side and whats (or was) connected to those rear wheels -are they off a tractor?
For those who think Gary has finally lost the plot financially, ;D the iconic split screen Kombi, after a top shelf resto have sold for $200K (Aussie) and a year or so ago one sold in the US for north of $200K. Utes aren`t in the same category, split or not, but they are appreciating nicely, esp the splits :o
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Congrats on this project Garry.
As for the prIces, the term 'tulip bulb mania' springs to mind. But what do I know.
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Thanks Cess.
George, the treasure chest doors for the ex PMG vehicles had the doors on both sides. Highly unusual and after some research, I found out that they may have fitted/fixed in place, some kind of equipment like a generator in on one side and a draw set up for tools etc on the other. These VW’s were actually built in Australia especially for the Post MasterGenerals Department as repair vehicles. Some of them actually had a setup to carry lamp posts. Dont ask me how.
It may be just a quirk in the photo as the rear wheels are standard.
1500cc engine with a 4 speed
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Perhaps they shoved them in the treasure chest with a bit of an overhang each side ;D There was a lot less traffic about then.........
It looks like someone has started a resto and run out of puff - a word of mouth find?
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George the seller is a serious VW collector
As well this one and his 55 SC Ute he had about 5 other VW various models, one a totally restored to original state 1948 VW Beetle in his shed, one of 20 in the world. Now that was something to see. Talk about being a basic form of transport.
He had owned the 64 SC for eight years and had intended to restore it but found an earlier ’55. Over the eight years he had fiddled with it a bit to see what was needed and then purchased all the tin ware, rubbers and interior, gates etc. before deciding that he would do up the earlier one which was a real mess. I heard that he had suggested to another person that he was thinking of selling the 64 to pay for some of the 55’s resto if they were interested but they didnt want to go through the restoration process so I asked if he would sell it to me. Rest is history. Now I have a ’72 bay low light that I was going to keep but will sell that one once I get this one back on the road as the keeper to sit along side the ’65 230SL. I am actually thinking of painting it in the MB 334G lower and 350H upper top half and the V front so that it matches the MB. That way I have all the extra paint, rattle cans and touch up cans for both in the same colour. Given that it was a PMG red all over I dont think I want to stick to that colour, it was not a pretty sight. :o
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Started into the resto on my 62 VW Split Window Kombi Single Cab Ute this week
A new side rail and part cross member added
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Kombi SC one side done. 3 more and the top side to go :o
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Some more rust repair, this time on the drivers side. Two sides down, two to go and the upper cabin body.
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Getting down to some serious rust removal on the Kombi
Three sides done, top half to go
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Great project Garry, many of us will be following your progress on that one.
Super video Larry ... Thanks for sharing.
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Kombi’s are a lot easier than Pagoda’s. Simplicity at its best.
Back from Sand Blasters and some more metat to add yet but not too bad.
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WOW!!! You have wasted no time!! Looking good!
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Any truth to the rumor that this is your next project?
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Michael,
Its the tow vehicle that I am restoring. Well a similar one. Now I know what I can do when finished, build a 5th wheeler.
Garry
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After having the body soda blasted, it was fitted to a rotisserie and spun over and low and behold more rust in the major cross members so new cross members fitted and the heater tube replaced that runs from engine to front cabin.
Its getting scarier every day. I have gone too far to stop now so its hang on for the ride.
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Youch! Is that a common area for rust on these bad boys? Or is rust a common thing anywhere on these bad boys??
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Jon,
I think that is a bit unusual but they say with the VW, take off the bottom ten inches and replace, both down and in and you will usually fix the rust problem!!!
Garry
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Garry,
Great comment about a not so great issue.
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Finally finished all the welding for rust repair. The last item was replacing a large part of the Dash Board. It had a large hole in it I suspect for some radio communications unit when it was a Telegraph Post hauler!! for the Post Master Generals Department. Luckily the seller had found a section of dashboard that came with the sale so it is now fitted in.
Now its onto the painting preparation, the longest and hardest job to do I think.
Garry
Pre dash repair and post dash piece welded in.
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Slowly slowly coming back together. Another month and the body work will be done, maybe ::)
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Wow Gary ... You've got your work cut out . Think its the only road to follow bringing it back in shape ....respect.
Are you going to leave it as a flatbed ,or is a pickup version your target ? You know with the folding sides....
Love the overhanging roof btw ... looks great .
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Rick,
I am putting side gates on it as I found some new ones in New Zealand that cost a fortune but as they are NLA worth every penny.
The overhang was as a result of the dusty roads here in Australia they made them so that the cooling air is scooped up across the double skinned roof, down the double skinned back wall and then under the flatbed to the engine rather than through vents in the sides of the rear engine bay. Saved the engine from being destroyed sucking in dust. A special order for the Post and Telegraph Department back in the early 60’s.
They are nicked named Muffin Tops!!! :D
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Muffin Tops, I love it!!
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Well Gary I got to say that will be one cool pickup .
Been looking for years for a "samba " 23 window and finally found a 21 window ....but really prices through the roof , so walked away. So I will follow your restoration with great interest :)
My latest project ( a 59 MGA ) is in its final stage of build so ....maybe I get inspired again.
"Muffin " top looks great ....even nice and straight as far as I can see.
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Hows the Single Cab going? Can't wait to see the finished project
Love VW's
Here is mine. I think I showed you mine in Ohio but I don't remember.
Mike
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Was working on it yesterday, found a lot of rust in the outer roof so cut it off and a friend gave me a replacement piece off a donor car he had that was in better condition in the roof than mine. It now looks like it has had a lobotomy :o :o
Photo of roof cut out and new one tacked on. Had hoped to have it painted by Xmas but will now be end of January, you know how it goes.
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Outer panels done now working on the interior prior to painting. Hope for paint in January then mechanicals.
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Just about set to paint the shell next week. Bit hot to paint today, its 43+c or in F a lazy 110.
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Hi Garry,
while you are contemplating the paint job consider adding some coloring pizzaz and a place for your surf boards! ;D
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I was thinking about buying an old long board to put in the back. 8)
Purchased the paint last week (334G lower half and 350H upper!!!!!) and was to be painting today but not quite ready for the paint. Purchased some coco mats from UK and they arrived with in 5 days, had a slight problem and it was resolved with a new mat 5 days later. Recommended and excellent service from Odette at Madmatz UK. http://www.madmatz.co.uk I believe they do Pagodas as well. They are better than the ones I has previously got for my Pagoda from CocoMats.
Garry
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Garry,
good to know that there is another vendor of coco mats but can you tell what is better/different on the one from Madmatz?
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Alfred,
Madmatz are not quite as thick as the Cocomats but have a rubber type material impregnated as a backing. They are considerably lighter, and shape to the floor better or in my VW case to the front wall as well with backing boards.
Garry
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Thanks Garry. I checked their web site but looks like they only have parts for VW cars.
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This is what you do when you cannot lower the top, put in Safari windows. ;D
Paint goes on next week I hope.
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Engine bay painted today.
Using 334G Light Blue but the photo does not do it justice.
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Now that's what I call flow through ventilation ;D
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More paint on today in the cabin of the VW Kombi single cab Utility, slowly slowly getting there
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Nice. The color makes all the difference! :)
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Nice Gary .. You're really moving along . Do you paint it yourself ?
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Garry,
Just for inspiration. :D From Techno-Classica.
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More inspirations for you Garry, elbow is the photo gallery link from past 11 year car shows of the Deutsche Classic held every year in July or around there .... Lots of VW caravans amount the VW Bugs, Beammers and Benzes :)
Enjoy unless you saw it before ---> http://www.deutscheclassic.com/gallery.html
Cheers,
Dieter
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Rick007,
I have been using a professional painter and helping (probably a hinderance if the truth be known)
Rolf-Dieter thanks, hd not seen before and lots of nice busses.
Final bit of paint on next week if all well.
Garry
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Well the finish coats are being done to the body over the next few days and have started the mechanicals. Engine out for overhaul and front and rear brakes all replaced and rear end and front beam repainted today.
Still think November is the aim at this point.
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Looking good Garry
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Getting the final external paint on the VW Single Cab Utility today. Guess what colour ;D
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A bit more paint on the VW Single Cab Utility. A very slow paint job, now nearly 18 months.
Familiar paint colours!!!!!!
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Nice job Garry
reminds me of my Hippie days, however the one I had was a bus of course.
Urban
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Lookin good Garry! I like the color scheme.
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Added clear coats (4) yesterday. Now I have a VW commercial that has a better paint job than my Pagoda!!!
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Going all week on Ute to get it ready for the big annual Day of The Volkswagen car show on this Sunday. It will be a trailer job as not yet running but pretty much there and the best I can do for show without waiting another year.
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Very nice !!! :)
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Got it out of the shed today. Nearly there.
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Very nice Garry
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Looks awesome!
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Gary,,
Looks fantastic -great colour combo BUT - lowered >:(
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Here is a photo of it at the show. Yes lowered for the show, I don’t like it and we are raising it this week.... well raising it so that it is only a little bit lowered.. 8)
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Congrats for getting it almost finished!
Lowered? Compared to this one, yours looks high:
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Very nice job.
We had a 1955 Transporter that I was going to restore. The last time it was registered for the road was in 1976 and the owner just used it since on his farm to take hay to the horses in the pasture. It was in weekly use up until 2004. Then my Dad bought it, placed it his back yard for a year+ sitting next to my pagoda (covered with Plywood - up to the axels in mud etc.). The week he moved the Pagoda into a shed some vandals broke every window in the transporter (and every window in his Ford Aerostar Van) and Dad gave up on ever restoring it and traded it for a set of used tires for his truck. As of 4 years ago it was still driving (on a farm) back to living life as a farm hack somewhere up near Alaska.
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looked at your pictures on Facebook Garry .... Respect....really looks awesome wow !!!
Time for a new project ?
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Rick,
Time for a rest i think. I still have another 1958 van put away in a friends shed that I may do but not for a year or three. Kate just would not understand!!!! :o
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Garry,
show this one to Kate and I'll bet she will fall in love with it.
Give it a try! :D
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Hahahah Yes I understand ... Looks like a great project again :) Boys always need their toys.
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Finally have my Volkswagon Split Screen Single Cab Ute finished and road registered. Am off on the ferry to Tasmania off our southern coast tomorrow night for a weekend car show then some touring.
Only taken a few years spare time.
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and a couple more photos.
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I was wondering about this. Looks great!!
There is a double cab up for sale near me and I was toying with the idea. Im out of room though. Maybe after we move.
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Great job Garry, now enjoy your toys for a spell before starting another project :)
Dieter
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Wow Garry, that really came out nice. Excellent workmanship.
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Really cool!!! 8)
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Looking REALLY sharp Garry 8) 8). Love the chrome side strip.
Weather should be on your side in Tassie - enjoy!
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Garry. I'm jealous of you with that car.... You should be able to fit at least ten Tasmanian devils in that thing. :-)
Tom
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Tom,
Some one with a shotgun, a "responsible gun owner” didn’t like this sign I saw this morning. I guess every country has their “responsible gun owners” group.
https://www.facebook.com/RGOotD/?fref=ts
Ours just tend to shoot signs, not people!!!
:P :P
Garry
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Took my VW Ute to a car show “Great Macedon Grand Tour limited to 150 cars, travelled 300 km. VW did not break down. Woo hoo. Had my old surf board in the back with board shorts tied on as well!!!
Won Best Presented Car in show.
Goes to show that two old hippies in a pickup can still get out there and give the younger fancy cars a run for their money. One Pagoda also in the run. An Austin Healy, many Triumphs, two Rolls Royces, couple of mustangs, other Fords and GM, a few Porsche, few Jag XKE’s, a XK 120, BMW's, in fact just about every thing you can think of including a Cadillac and an Edsel, (that broke down).
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Garry congratualtion. A prize well deserved!
You are relentless in bringing those oldies to prime state. The car looks truly superb.
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Congratulations!
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Most excellent, love the hippies.
Great trophy too!
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Well done Garry :)
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Congrats, let the hippies reunite!!
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Yes hippies reunite!
Garry: weren't hippies putting everything in common? Wives, cars etc??? ;D So careful with your new treasure...