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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: RickM on August 27, 2009, 19:33:24

Title: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: RickM on August 27, 2009, 19:33:24
As I collect the parts needed for my comprehensive '71 restoration I'm seriously considering a color change.

I think I'll appreciate a red other than the original Signal red (w/Cognac interior).  In the late '70s I had a Porsche finished in Brocade Red (Brokatrot - L32A) with "saddle" interior.....IMHO, a stunning, rich color combination. I know this body color was utilized for both Porsche and VW/Audi. Apparently it was not part of MBs line up.

So, can any of you offer opinions on the other reds offered that are MB original colors and perhaps period correct?
Better yet, feel free to post a pic of your red car for inspiration.

Here's a very nice possibility: http://www.retroclassic.com/english/fahrzeuge.html (http://www.retroclassic.com/english/fahrzeuge.html)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Dash808 on August 27, 2009, 20:10:10
I agree.  That does look very nice.  If you scroll down you can see more pics of that car.  It could be the camera and/or lighting, but in the other pics the paint doesn't seem as deep or dark. The homepage photo is probably touched up a bit.

They say the paint is 571 which would be like this one in the wiki towards the bottom of the page. 
 
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/PaintCodes (http://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/PaintCodes)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: RickM on August 27, 2009, 20:19:29
Chan, I agree on the code. In 2 of the pics it seems to be similar to the Brocade color I love so much. However, it is a metallic which I'll likely not get involved with.

If anyone has a 571 colored car please post pics.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: 66andBlue on August 27, 2009, 20:53:13
If you prefer a non-metallic then what about 576G?
G to: http://www.motoringinvestments.com/MainPage.htm
and click on the Mercedes page and find "#56 1971 280SL SOLD Sept. '08, Thanks S.!" to look at more pictures.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: RBYCC on September 27, 2009, 02:30:20
My 1971 280SL is 576G Deep Red...

Photo below makes it look lighter but it actually looks almost like a maroon.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b183/rbycc/280SL-L-1.jpg)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: thelews on September 27, 2009, 03:34:58
I'm sorry you don't like Signal...

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2594327548_18fabd215e_o.jpg)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: RickM on September 28, 2009, 21:34:31
Ed and John,

Your cars look beautiful. That Dark Red is very similar to the Brocade Red I speak of.

John: Is that Signal Red? it appears to be quite a bit darker than my car. Perhaps my faded finish is throwing me off.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: thelews on September 28, 2009, 23:18:36
Ed and John,

Your cars look beautiful. That Dark Red is very similar to the Brocade Red I speak of.

John: Is that Signal Red? it appears to be quite a bit darker than my car. Perhaps my faded finish is throwing me off.

Depends on the light.  The sun was going down and not directly on the car.

Yes, signal red, and here are two other pictures.  One from the 37 year owner (w/hardtop) and another in the sun from the next owner (3 months).

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2178/2005085450_7c4924f26e_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2314/2047852522_592cd06cc5_b.jpg)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: dtuttle123 on September 29, 2009, 17:29:24
...and then there is "Orient Red", which is similar to a maroon.  8)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: 66andBlue on September 29, 2009, 17:33:48
Looks great, Doug! What is the color code?
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: RickM on September 29, 2009, 21:35:18
...and then there is "Orient Red", which is similar to a maroon.  8)

Wow, beautiful !
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Jonny B on September 29, 2009, 22:45:14
Oh wow, do I ever agree, what a magical color.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: waqas on September 29, 2009, 22:56:41
Wow, what a stunner! Is that DB501 perchance?
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: dtuttle123 on September 30, 2009, 04:07:15
Thanks everyone!  The color is 501H according to my data plate. ;)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Dash808 on September 30, 2009, 05:05:56
That is the nicest maroon I have ever seen on a car.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: hkollan on September 30, 2009, 07:55:57
That's just amazing.  Car, color and picture.
The gorgeous wheels are enough to make me speechless, counting 8 circles on each...
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Drewtee on October 01, 2009, 10:10:36
This car is 576G colour code. i would say that these pictures reproduce the colour pretty accurately. I find the colour changes in the sun more red. When not sunny, more Maroon as Ed says.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: RickM on October 01, 2009, 14:32:00
This car is 576G colour code. i would say that these pictures reproduce the colour pretty accurately. I find the colour changes in the sun more red. When not sunny, more Maroon as Ed says.


This looks very similar to the Brocade Red I remember...at least on my monitor.

Anyone with a 573G car? Burgundy Red?
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: 114015 on October 01, 2009, 17:53:52
Hello Rick,

Yes, my car is 573G "Dunkelbordeauxrot" (dark Bordeaux red).
It's dark red, darker than 576 or its predecessor color code 516H.
It's a (dark) wine red with a touch of maroon (to brown).

However,
this color code is not original for your car but was only available until 1965.
It was succeeded by 542 "dark red" which is quite similar but a little more puple and not so brownish like my 573. Personally, I like the 542 a little bit more.

Sorry please for the extremely bad quality of the pic.

Best,
Achim
(no car anymore but parts and knowledge collector)
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: 66andBlue on October 01, 2009, 18:28:07
Thanks everyone!  The color is 501H according to my data plate. ;)
Hello Doug,
please post a few more pictures of your car in the "Photo Gallery" board.  It is too nice not be enjoyed in more detail.  :)
thanks!
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: KW-BYBEE on October 02, 2009, 12:25:33
HI,
Here is my car (just purchased last week)  The data car indicates this is 571 RED.  The data plate indicates the body should be 571 RED and the hardtop 040 BLACK.  I intend to correct that as I restore the car.  The color changes dramatically depending on the lighting.  inside it looks Cinnamon like but in the bright sun it is quite red.  The current picture was taken in the former owners garage.  I had it towed to a mechanic to get here running again.
Kyle
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: dtuttle123 on October 02, 2009, 17:00:26
Hi Kyle - definately paint the roof black, and make sure you paint the hubcaps to match - it will look awesome, and get it back to the orginal spec!  I think the two-tone is one of the best attributes of these cars in their times. 

I also like the fact the Mini-Coppers of today have brought back that feature - we also have one of those - blue with a black top!
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: KW-BYBEE on October 02, 2009, 22:46:56
Doug,
I totally agree about the two tone!   I too love the Mini's with the two colors.  Your car looks beautiful.  Mine is a 67 250 as well, what is your paint code?  Mine is 571, I don't know of many any others this color.  I wonder how close they are in production number?  Does yours have powersteering and or AC?

Kyle

kwbybee@aol.com

Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: 66andBlue on October 03, 2009, 02:42:11
... Personally, I like the 542 a little bit more. ...
Achim, here is your favorite red - still like it?
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Drewtee on October 03, 2009, 07:36:47
I like that, a little unusual.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Drewtee on October 04, 2009, 19:26:59
Here's more pics of a 542 code car.

'Copley cars' has it if anyone is interested.(i'm not affiliated) it looks gorgeous.
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: 114015 on October 05, 2009, 19:14:01
DB542?

Quote
Achim, here is your favorite red - still like it?

Einfach spitze ! ;)

Achim
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on October 06, 2009, 12:15:44
Another Red?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-280-SL-PAGODA-RED-WITH-SOFT-HARD-TOP_W0QQitemZ320429336106QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4a9b13a62a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

naj
Title: Re: 113 and red body color options.....
Post by: thelews on October 06, 2009, 12:27:25
Another Red?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-280-SL-PAGODA-RED-WITH-SOFT-HARD-TOP_W0QQitemZ320429336106QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAutomobiles_UK?hash=item4a9b13a62a&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

naj

That's Signal.  It's the lighting and camera making it look orange.