Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: thelews on November 11, 2008, 00:25:42

Title: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on November 11, 2008, 00:25:42
I used the search function, which by the way, is EXCELLENT in this new format, and I couldn't find what I was looking for. 

What I need is a high resolution picture of both sides of the wheel changing tag that hangs in the trunk.  I also need the dimensions.  I assume my 250 SL had one originally, or did it not?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Jonny B on November 11, 2008, 02:04:19
I can scan the one I have, but it will not be until the weekend or early next week. I am traveling this week. If no one else comes up with the information in the mean time. I believe it does have the date stamped on it, I also think it was a generic tag for MB and not specific to the 113.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Peter van Es on November 11, 2008, 07:10:09
You are not looking for this tag, are you http://www.sl113.com/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=WheelsTires.Alloys (http://www.sl113.com/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=WheelsTires.Alloys). This is from the Alloys section in the Technical Manual.

Peter
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on November 11, 2008, 12:59:41
If that's the one in the 250 SL, then yes.  However, a clean reproduction on both sides and mention of the proper dimensions is what I'm looking for.  I'm trying to replicate the tag, unless there is a source for it.

Thanks.

And, thanks Johnny.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: mdsalemi on November 11, 2008, 13:48:19
New ones are made and sold by Bob Geco.  Why don't you just buy one from him?
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on November 11, 2008, 13:55:17
New ones are made and sold by Bob Geco.  Why don't you just buy one from him?

Thanks for the suggestion.  I hope I contacted the correct Bob (Bob G).
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on November 11, 2008, 17:31:38
Hope these help  ::)

naj
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on November 11, 2008, 18:03:30
Hope these help  ::)

naj

Thanks, now I know what I'm looking for exactly.  I was hoping for a scan that could then be printed on the proper size card stock.  Seems Bob Geco might be the best route to go.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: wwheeler on November 11, 2008, 21:10:04
I purchased a similar tag and other decals from Bob Geco. His quality is excellent! He has several new ones including a fuse box card and the tire pressure decal that is on the fuel filler door for a 111. I think the same one fits on the 113 but not sure.

On my '68 111 M130 engine, I had a different original valve cover decal that was smaller than the current one that is produced. Mine was also mounted on the chain sproket hump in front and positioned vertically. The others are postioned lower on the drivers side of the valve cover and are horizontal. Bob now has the one like mine available.

Contact him because he has a lot of decals for the 113 and they are high quality.

Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Douglas on November 12, 2008, 14:58:09
You are not looking for this tag, are you http://www.sl113.com/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=WheelsTires.Alloys (http://www.sl113.com/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=WheelsTires.Alloys). This is from the Alloys section in the Technical Manual.

Peter

That's not the tag he wants. That's the alloy wheel hang tag.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Bob G ✝︎ on November 13, 2008, 19:21:57
I found this discussion very intresting. Since I am in the business of reproducing some of these (engineering Tags) I have  some technical questions I hope can be answered.

1) the alloy wheel tire hanging  instruction tag. what chassie number for the 280SL was this supplied on and what year?

2) do any owners have this tag that they can send me a high resolution picture of back and front with part number startinng with the letters KD.

3) what are the demensions of the card are they different than that of the 280SL with steel wheels . the tag I have  is 20 MM length by 11/1/2 MM wide.

4) I am also looking for an orginal 250SL hanging tire instruction tag. My new partner has an obilterated one so we can not exsamine it to see what the demensions are  and any other differences.

I also hear your discontent with the prices of the 280SL hanging tags  I have left in stock. I am trying to fine another vendor who will  do the same high quality at at lesser price. since my previous partner was responsible for the the tire change instruction tag that I have two left of I have no idea who he used to make them up and  at what  cost.

my  goal is to supply you with quality and service and I will strive to keep the best quality reproduction tags availible to you at the farest price I can with the  best service possible.

Sincerely
Bob Geco
krwaxbz@yahoo.com
310-839-8337
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on May 07, 2009, 01:11:09
Got a good scan of a tag and made one for my trunk.  Even has a bit of a vintage look to it!

Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Mark280SL on May 07, 2009, 03:00:22
Looks great, I've been looking for one as well, can you share how you did it?

Got a good scan of a tag and made one for my trunk.  Even has a bit of a vintage look to it!


Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on May 07, 2009, 13:09:39
Cleaned it up (the scan) a bit on a photo editing program.  Printed the two sides per original sizing on a bit heavier stock white printing paper.  Trimmed the edges.  Got some stickum laminate (OfficeMax) and covered both sides, trimmed edges.  Went to shoe store and had eyelet installed.  Total cost, $5 or so.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Garry on May 07, 2009, 13:18:39
That is a great job, dont care to share the scan do you?

Garry
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Mark280SL on May 07, 2009, 16:00:20
If you are so inclined to distribute and share count me in too.

That is a great job, dont care to share the scan do you?

Garry
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: waqas on May 07, 2009, 16:11:40
Great work!  Ditto for me on the scan sharing bit.

Now there will be a slew of cars with identically-weathered wheel change tags...  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Anfinn on May 07, 2009, 18:10:16
Be careful about following the  instructions on the card uncritically!

The English version can be read to mean that you should remove the bolts before jacking up the car.

In section 5, the German word "losen" has been translated to "unscrew".
It ought to have said "loosen" which is the better translation of the German word.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on May 07, 2009, 21:58:38
Send me a PM with your email address and I will email the files (2, front and back) to you.  About 5 meg. total.
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Peter van Es on May 10, 2009, 16:01:46
Mail me the originals (to admin@sl113.org) and I'll post them on the Wiki!

Peter
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Samer Al Abed on May 13, 2009, 15:40:51
Good day all...,
I was following up the the information exchanged from the beginning..
That was a very smart move from John...i was trying to do so but i couldn't get the high quility pictures and the size..!!
Dear John, the same question..are you welling to share this with us...?!!
I would like to receive the high quality pictures as will..if you don't mind
My Email, samer_alabed@hotmail.com
Thanks again
Samer
 
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: zoegrlh on June 04, 2009, 00:52:40
John,
Did you get the dimensions for the Wheel Change tag, if so, could you furnish to me.  I would also like to make a tag.
thanks,
Bob
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: thelews on June 04, 2009, 03:18:04
 7 7/8"  X  4 1/2"  (inches)
Title: Re: Wheel change tag
Post by: Bob G ✝︎ on June 16, 2009, 01:31:28
The manufacturing or should I saw repainting A Devinne is not difficult if you can live with a less than original copy . However when you get down to the nitty gritty of re manufacturing these engineering tags it takes more than a printer scanner and a trip to office max to laminate it  . It takes measurements from the original ,samples of material researching part numbers and Vin codes. Taking pictures with special macro lens to put  it into full frame one to one duplication. Sampling Tex styles. An awfully lot just to make a proper tag. Been their done that.

Has any one seen the documentary of restoring the ceiling of the Chistine chapel in Rome. This documentary done by PBS? it took ten year and a special solution applied by Japanese rice paper to the ceiling to remove the soot that had build up  on the ceiling covering the priceless painting . I gathered from this an understanding for restoring items. Be it a car or a tag that once adorned an air box in an engine bay.

I just completed the engineering tags for the tire pressure decal for a 1971 280SE/9 3.5. it took a team of professionals that could print money seven times to get it right and a heavy cost at that. That is the price you pay for prefection these days.
I wish there was a less expensive Way, there is not.
not that simple.

Bob Geco