Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: benzportland on June 21, 2008, 12:36:27

Title: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: benzportland on June 21, 2008, 12:36:27
I have replaced the bushings shifter bushings included the bushings on the forward end of the shift tube.  I still get quite a bit of horizontal or left-right play at the base of the shift lever.  There is also a bit of up/down play, but not too much.  I am wondering if I am missing a piece, I noticed part number 14 in the diagram, and I don't remember seeing this at all when I did the bushings.  It's difficult for me to tell where that piece is placed in relation to the others from this diagram, or what it attaches to if anything.  Any tips greatly appreciated.



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Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on June 21, 2008, 12:48:47
BP,

#14 packs around the metal carrier plate #11/#12

naj
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: benzportland on June 21, 2008, 13:40:52
That would make sense to me because the carrier plate seems to just be "floating" or simply resting in place. As for #11 and #12, are these older/newer versions of the same part, or should I have both? (1965 230sl).  Thank you.
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on June 21, 2008, 15:31:28
quote:
Originally posted by benzportland

That would make sense to me because the carrier plate seems to just be "floating" or simply resting in place. As for #11 and #12, are these older/newer versions of the same part, or should I have both? (1965 230sl).  Thank you.



Change over from #11 to #12 was at chassis # 14258 on the 230 SL.

1965 was probly below Ch 14258?

naj
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: benzportland on June 21, 2008, 17:24:13
Thank you for clearing that up too.  The service bulletin I have which describes a change (but not anything about the piece I am missing) is dated November '65 (Job 26-25).  My chassis is 009988, rolled off March 29, 1965.  

quote:
Originally posted by naj

quote:
Originally posted by benzportland

That would make sense to me because the carrier plate seems to just be "floating" or simply resting in place. As for #11 and #12, are these older/newer versions of the same part, or should I have both? (1965 230sl).  Thank you.



Change over from #11 to #12 was at chassis # 14258 on the 230 SL.

1965 was probly below Ch 14258?

naj

Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: Benz Dr. on June 22, 2008, 23:01:50
There are stabiliser rods that go from the back of the trans to the plate that the shift rod sits in. Check them for missing or worn bushings. Some trans shifters are loose inside of the box - nothing you can (easily)  do to fix that.
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: ddodson1 on June 23, 2008, 11:33:21
I just replaced the shift lever bushings on my car, too.  I later found a diagram that describes a "corrugated washer", but I can't tell from diagram what it is or where it goes.  Do you know?  What is its purpose?  Shifter seems to work great, but I'm concerned that I missed this piece on reassembly.


Drake
'65 230 SL
Maryland
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on June 23, 2008, 14:27:26
quote:
Originally posted by ddodson1

I just replaced the shift lever bushings on my car, too.  I later found a diagram that describes a "corrugated washer", but I can't tell from diagram what it is or where it goes.  Do you know?  What is its purpose?  Shifter seems to work great, but I'm concerned that I missed this piece on reassembly.


Drake
'65 230 SL
Maryland



Hello, Drake,

The "corrugated washer" fits under the snap ring and holds the two spherical ball bushes together.

naj
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: benzportland on June 26, 2008, 20:51:12
Thank you all!  I just got the part (#14) and that solved it all!!  Oh well, at least I took care of the bushings while I was at it.
Title: Re: shift lever horizontal play
Post by: benzportland on June 26, 2008, 20:53:05
quote:
Originally posted by Benz Dr.

There are stabiliser rods that go from the back of the trans to the plate that the shift rod sits in. Check them for missing or worn bushings. Some trans shifters are loose inside of the box - nothing you can (easily)  do to fix that.



Thank you - I did check those out, and I do think that was part of the problem too.  All I found at the transmission end of those was large metal washers which did not even fit the screw shafts properly [:0].  I put in the right bushings.