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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: Desertpagoda on February 04, 2008, 17:50:17

Title: Big Blue Book
Post by: Desertpagoda on February 04, 2008, 17:50:17
Moderator: Keith sold his BBB. We have broadened this topic to a general discussion of the BBB (Big Blue Book).

Hi! Would like to sell an as-new, unused BBB (grey cover/blue stripe). Offers around $100. Keith 520-404-2875

                         SOLD...THANKS!!!

kb
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: Kemal on February 05, 2008, 11:17:19
What's BBB ?

Thank you in advance.

Kemal
280SL
Manual LHD 69
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: franjo_66 on February 05, 2008, 16:38:58
I think it stands for the Big Blue Book (ie the all in one service manual & technical guide)

Rgds
Frank
1966 230SL, Black/RHD/Auto
1996 E36 AMG
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: rwmastel on February 05, 2008, 18:31:44
See here:  http://www.sl113.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Documents.BBB

Rodd
Pagoda Technical Manual
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1966 230SL
2006 C230 Sport Sedan
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: waqas on February 05, 2008, 19:19:15
From http://www.sl113.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Documents.BBB:
quote:

Werkstatthandbuch PKW-Typen ab Baujahr 1959

This is available in German only, and covers the following cars:


This does not sound correct. I myself have a copy of this in English (original dealer copy from 1968, MB binder, with color pages printed on glossy paper).

Waqas in Austin, Texas
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: Cees Klumper on February 06, 2008, 10:46:19
Waqas - what this refers to is that, these days, some of the publications that used to be available in English, can now only be bought from the classic center in German.

But, then, there's the English language CD-ROM that AFAIK also include the BBB - so if that is correct it can still be obtained in English. Oh, and BTW, the BBB acronym was coined to the best of my knowledge by 'our own' David Pease ...


Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: Peter van Es on February 06, 2008, 17:32:32
Actually, the information is correct today: have a look at the part numbers and then visit MB. There are two distinct BBB's in German. To deal with a 280 SL you'll need both. There used to be an English language version combining articles from both BBB's that covered the car in its entirety in one volume, but that is no longer available.

So you are selling that English version. If you know the ISBN or part nr, please mail me the details.... I'll add it to the Technical Manual. In fact, I would have liked to have bought it!

Peter

1970 280SL. Also known as 'admin@sl113.org' and organiser of the Technical Manual (http://www.sl113.org/wiki/pmwiki.php).
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: Desertpagoda on February 06, 2008, 19:30:48
Hi! The numbers on this "BBB" are; Bestell-Nr. 6510 1402 13. This book has the newer glossy grey cover with the blue stripe near the top. I have others...the older kind, all bluish-green in color. I think I have a really old one that has a powder blue non-glossy cover.Also have various other old manuals ie; k4 tranny book/a-c supplement etc. Keith

kb
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: glennard on February 07, 2008, 08:45:56
Soon there will be a PPP- Purely Pagoda Publication!  Thanx, Peter.



quote:
Originally posted by vanesp

Actually, the information is correct today: have a look at the part numbers and then visit MB. There are two distinct BBB's in German. To deal with a 280 SL you'll need both. There used to be an English language version combining articles from both BBB's that covered the car in its entirety in one volume, but that is no longer available.

So you are selling that English version. If you know the ISBN or part nr, please mail me the details.... I'll add it to the Technical Manual. In fact, I would have liked to have bought it!

Peter

1970 280SL. Also known as 'admin@sl113.org' and organiser of the Technical Manual (http://www.sl113.org/wiki/pmwiki.php).
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: Richard Madison on October 09, 2008, 18:23:02
quote:
The numbers on this "BBB" are; Bestell-Nr. 6510 1402 13. This book has the newer glossy grey cover with the blue stripe near the top. I have others...the older kind, all bluish-green in color...a really old one...has a powder blue non-glossy cover.


Do I have a "real" BBB or some ersazt copy?

The title of my BBB is "Service Manual Passenger Cars Starting 1968 Series 108 - 109 -111 - 113 Maintenance, Tuning, Unit Replacement"

It has a glossy Green/Blue cover with a white strip for the title.

The Order Number is 6510140413. The quote above gives a BBB Manual number that ends with 213 not 413.

And another Forum message referred to BBB "page 42-9" but my BBB skips from 42-8/10 to 42-10/1. My BBB has no page 42-9. Am I missing pages, are there different editions, or what?    

Richard M, NYC
(Finally able to use "ersatz" in a sentence.)
Title: Re: Big Blue Book
Post by: Klaus on October 10, 2008, 07:56:58
Richard,
the regular use of the term BBB usually means the Service Manual Passenger Cars starting 1968. However, for the W113 the Workshop Manual starting August 1959 is equally important, since it contains info about the early W113 models, and info contained in this book is not duplicated in the later one since it was assumed that you had the earlier one. In the earlier one, 42-9 is "Removal and Installation of Rear Brake Shoes".
On the other hand, if you purchase the CD "Star Classic Service Manual Library, Early Models Volume 4" it contains the info from both Manuals on disk 2.