Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: German Dude on May 16, 2007, 02:26:58

Title: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: German Dude on May 16, 2007, 02:26:58
I checked the above mentioned connection last Sunday and found that the little rubber hose (it connects the crankcase ventilation tube with the intake manifold, located right by the csv)had a hole in it and was generally brittle while looking great from looking at it from above.

I told my trusted mechanic about it. He was in a rush and told me this: "Well, good: this is going to give you better gas mileage."

He had no time to elaborate - and I have been wondering about this ever since! Does anybody have an explanation?

Thanks a lot!

Juergen
64 230SL #2933, 4sp, signal red, white hard top
2000 320 CDI Station Wagon
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: hands_aus on May 16, 2007, 05:53:06
Some of the return gases from the valve cover might have been escaping, so with the new hose in place all the gases should be returned to the inlet manifold and eventually be burnt in the engine.

Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: J. Huber on May 16, 2007, 08:14:32
Hey Juergen, my little hose with a 90 in it showed the same kind of wear. Not sure of mileage affect but mine was spewing a little muck which caught my attention. I believe I asked Ray (parts guy) years back and it may be NLA. What I did was wrap it with some black tape. Now the muck goes somewhere else!

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: German Dude on May 16, 2007, 08:59:13
Actually,

it is available. I just called my Mercedes Benz dealership and picked it up a day later. EUR 9.80!!!

Juergen
64 230SL #2933, 4sp, signal red, white hard top
2000 320 CDI Station Wagon
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: J. Huber on May 16, 2007, 09:21:19
Oh. Sorry Juergen. Maybe I was thinking about the metal part of the breather hose that runs across? Anyhoo - I stand corrected...
(got the part number handy?)

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: German Dude on May 16, 2007, 09:30:26
Yes sir,

it's

127 094 0491

SLS in Hamburg has it a lot cheaper - as I saw after my purchase.

Juergen
64 230SL #2933, 4sp, signal red, white hard top
2000 320 CDI Station Wagon
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: waqas on May 18, 2007, 00:06:54
I'm unsure about the hose you folks are referring to.

On top of the valve cover, there is a short 90deg elbow hose (1) made of rubber. This hose is connected to a plastic pipe (2) that runs over to the intake and then bends by 90deg toward the front. This plastic pipe is connected to the intake via a little stub hose (3) made of rubber.

Are you referring to (1) the elbow hose, (2) the plastic pipe, or (3) the stub hose?  Which of the three does the part number below correspond to?

This evening, I replaced my elbow hose (the previous owner had installed a bent piece of heater hose), and found some cracks in the plastic pipe. I believe the stub hose was specially formed and is NLA (unless someone knows otherwise). I simply used a short piece of 0.5" heater hose (which I plan to soon replace with fuel-rated hose)

So, anyone have a part number for the plastic pipe? (and the stub hose, if still available)

WAQAS in Austin, Texas
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: J. Huber on May 18, 2007, 18:24:56
Hi Waqas. I think I can clarify. The earlier cars had a different breather hose than later cars. It was mostly metal (and prone to rust I'm afraid)... Moreover, many cars have "converted" to the later ones because they are only ones available.



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James
63 230SL
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: waqas on May 18, 2007, 18:35:50
Hello James,
Thanks for the reply and photo-- it all makes sense now.
Best regards,

WAQAS in Austin, Texas
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: Bob G MN on October 09, 2007, 16:29:46
just as info I ordered this 90 deg hose from the local MB dealer yesterday and it was here today. :)   Price delivered was $5.80
Title: Re: rubber hose crankcase vent to intake manifold
Post by: J. Huber on October 10, 2007, 13:25:27
And just for more reference, mine ended up 4.30 plus S&H from Ray. However, it took weeks to get here! (I did have other things on the list which may have held things up.) Bob's next day service from MB is very impressive!

James
63 230SL