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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: George Des on December 14, 2005, 20:04:05

Title: My Firewall Pad
Post by: George Des on December 14, 2005, 20:04:05
Been much talk about the firewall pads and the different "textures". The attached photo shows the factory original firewall pad on my 1967 230SL Euro ZF 5 Speed as it was delivered in Nov 1967 to an Italian physician from Rovigo, Italy. (I still have all the original documentation, bill of sale and Italian registration material.) I purchased in 1976 while in Vicenza, Italy. This photo was taken in 1981 while I was stationed at Camp Darby (Livorno), Italy outside of Pisa. The pad has long since been changed out for one of the newer style pads offered by all the usual suppliers and is noticeably different in both thickness and texture.

George Des

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Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Douglas on December 14, 2005, 20:31:04
Here's the only 230 SL I've ever seen with what appears to be an original firewall pad in decent shape:

http://motoringinvestments.com/C87photo3.htm

Perhaps it was updated at some point when the OEM part was still available.
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: 66andBlue on December 14, 2005, 21:23:17
quote:
Originally posted by Douglas

Here's the only 230 SL I've ever seen with what appears to be an original firewall pad in decent shape: ...


Not only does it have the original firewall pad, this is the 1st time that I have actually seen a cover over the large fuel pump - but then I am a Newbie (or greenhorn if you prefer) to these cars. And I am awed by these fire-red trumpet horns in the engine bay  :)

Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Tom230sl on December 14, 2005, 22:50:09
early style pad pattern.  Was made of a rubber slurry over the fiber insulation material.  This caused the rather undefined pattern.  Later style is made with a machine pattern.


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Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Tom230sl on December 14, 2005, 22:55:25
quote:
Originally posted by Douglas

Here's the only 230 SL I've ever seen with what appears to be an original firewall pad in decent shape:

http://motoringinvestments.com/C87photo3.htm

Perhaps it was updated at some point when the OEM part was still available.



does not seem to have body color(red) under pad??  or anywhere in engine compartment. Not a good example.
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Ben on December 15, 2005, 02:53:05
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does not seem to have body color(red) under pad?? or anywhere in engine compartment. Not a good example.



..........I agree, this car has clearly been painted by someone who is NOT familiar with the factory look, even the bonnet spring has been careful !

quote:
Not only does it have the original firewall pad, this is the 1st time that I have actually seen a cover over the large fuel pump - but then I am a Newbie (or greenhorn if you prefer) to these cars. And I am awed by these fire-red trumpet horns in the engine bay


.........I dont see any cover, are you looking atv the fluid resevoir ?

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Douglas on December 15, 2005, 06:14:35
quote:
Originally posted by Tom230sl

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Originally posted by Douglas

does not seem to have body color(red) under pad??  or anywhere in engine compartment. Not a good example.



Tom,

I was merely calling attention to the OEM pad, not the car. Obviously, the car went through a color change.

Douglas Kim
Mahopac, NY
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Jonny B on December 15, 2005, 06:49:14
If you open up the link Doug listed, and scroll down, there are a number of good undercarriage photos. They also show the smaller fuel tank discussed a bit in another post about 230SL on ebay.

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Tom230sl on December 16, 2005, 14:25:30
Hey Douglas, I understand.  I guess my point was that its probably more likely that the engine  compartment was sprayed black  since under the hood was also.  And the firewall  being black., someone probably replaced the pad at some point  so it may not be the original to the cars build date.
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: 66andBlue on December 20, 2005, 20:54:32
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Originally posted by Ben
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.........I dont see any cover, are you looking atv the fluid resevoir ?


Hi Ben, I am not sure what I am looking at but it sure looks like a pump cover. Take  a look:
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Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: Ben on December 21, 2005, 03:01:12
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Hi Ben, I am not sure what I am looking at but it sure looks like a pump cover. Take a look:
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OOOOpps !   Yeah I see it now, it IS a pump cover, I was looking at a different photo !

I believe they should have that, mine doesn't either !

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: TheEngineer on December 21, 2005, 11:34:56
Here is a pic of my car with the original firewall pad in good shape

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Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: 113gray on December 23, 2005, 18:33:01
Quote
Originally posted by Douglas

Here's the only 230 SL I've ever seen with what appears to be an original firewall pad in decent shape:

http://motoringinvestments.com/C87photo3.htm

Firewall pad looks great; not as sure about the horn trio [:0]  -JP-
Title: Re: My Firewall Pad
Post by: JPMOSE on February 16, 2008, 08:40:21
George,

Could you repost the photo of your original firewall pad?  It doesn't open to a photo anymore.   Thanks!

Best Regards,

J. P. Mose
1968 250SL
1987 560SL