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Title: Help with build card translation?
Post by: lurtch on November 25, 2005, 19:55:18: Hello to All - -

I have managed to translate all but TWO of the entries on the build card for my 230SL. Can anyone tell me what the two unnumbered (and indecipherable) blocks below the option codes (723,226,227, 229) designate? Regards, Larry in CA

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Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: Chad on November 25, 2005, 19:58:45: i dont know. a search usually gives it. or douglas will.

it seems pretty cool that your card has handwritten numbers on it. mine was all typed.

-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: Douglas on November 25, 2005, 21:55:08: I wish I could help, but I'm not familiar enough with the 230 SL datacards to comment on those specific fields. The format of the card is different from the 280 SL-style datacard.
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: J. Huber on November 25, 2005, 22:21:03: Hey Lurtch. My copy is not much more legible. However, I think I can make out the first part of the first word on mine: it looks like ZulassungsXXXXXX. Best I can translate is "permission" of some sort? What would help is if somebody has the actual datacard (versus a facsimile)....

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: CarlG on November 25, 2005, 23:04:55: From the original data card it says Zulassungsdatum and the Next box is Olmarke. Sorry I can't help with translation.

1967 230sl (stick)
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: 66andBlue on November 26, 2005, 10:28:16: Zulassungsdatum = the date when the car is first registered by Government authorities, e.g., Dept. of Motor Vehicles in the USA.

Ölmarke = literal translation is "oil brand name". But could it be the recommended viscosity? I have no clue why this was necessary or desirable to be known; perhaps one of the group's historians can enlighten us.

Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: gugel on November 26, 2005, 11:05:44: Alfred is correct on the meaning of the terms. My Zulassungsdatum is also blank, but presumably for any car it would normally be within a day or two of the Übernahmetag (delivery date) shown on the lower left of the card.

Chris
1965 230SL
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: lurtch on November 26, 2005, 23:01:00: Thanks to All for the contributions to my Fahrzeugdatenkarte efforts. Please enjoy the finished product.

My personal favorite is Box 16, Koffer-und-Handschuhkastenschlob.

Regards, Larry in CA

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Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: J. Huber on November 27, 2005, 15:52:06: Very good work, Lurtch. I am applying it to my card right now. Thanks.

PS keep your notes, you can get extra credit in your next German class!

PSS -- in comparing mine and your card, there seem to be a few differences. My 22 appears to be scheibenwascher? with Bosch in the box. Maybe the washerpump? Also, my upper Fg. Nr (chassis #) is in a different location. Also interesting is your right and left axles have same number -- mine are xxx217 and xxx182. All in all very helpful!

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: gugel on November 27, 2005, 20:02:53: quote:
Originally posted by lurtch

My personal favorite is Box 16, Koffer-und-Handschuhkastenschlob.

That's Koffer- und Handschuhkastenschloß. The "ß" character is essentially equivalent to "ss". Your translation is correct, though.

Incidentally, the German special characters can be entered on a PC by turning NumLock on, then holding down the Alt key and typing on the number keypad on the right:

0228 ä
0196 Ä
0246 ö
0214 Ö
0252 ü
0220 Ü
0223 ß

Chris
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: 66andBlue on November 27, 2005, 20:47:17: quote:
Originally posted by J. Huber

.. in comparing mine and your card, there seem to be a few differences. My 22 appears to be scheibenwascher? with Bosch in the box. Maybe the washerpump? ...

James, you are lucky, at least you got a Scheibenwascher :) .. I just have an R (whatever that is?) in #22. But mine also drives on two different left and right front axles. See:
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Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: Ben on November 28, 2005, 04:05:40: :)
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: saygold on November 28, 2005, 11:18:44: A question for someone who knows a lot more about 113s than I do (which is almost everybody):

Were the chassis numbers sequential with just the transmission identification number changing dependent on whether the car had a manual transmission (#10) or an automatic (#12)?

I was looking at Larry's data card and noticed that my chassis number was just after his although mine has a manual. See below (information supplied from MBUSA, including translation):

chassis number: 113 042 10 016445
engine number: 127 981 10 012854
transmission number: 012801
front axle number, l: 165006
front axle number, r: 165007
rear axle number: 16622
steering box number: 73122
exterior color code: 717 - papyrus white body / 332 - dark blue hardtop
interior color code: 115 - dark blue, MB-Tex
option codes:
401 single seats
416 hardtop mounted
422 power steering
720 softtop fabric, black

Ken
'66 230SL (euro)
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: waltklatt on November 28, 2005, 11:38:48: I have several datacards, some originals and most copies or faxes. I often see the date of production being done with a rubber stamp. This stamping is not seen on any of yours listed here. I'll scan one tonight and you can see.
Walter Klatt
1967 220SL diesel
1963 230SL gas nearly stripped
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: waltklatt on November 28, 2005, 22:09:11: Got the scans here.
I have the same R on all 3 of the datacards I found.
See the images.

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Walter Klatt
1967 220SL diesel
1963 230SL gas nearly stripped
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: waltklatt on November 28, 2005, 22:20:25: James, if you look at the databack picture, you can see that #22 is the windshield washer setup. Bosch made the wipers blades and holders. I have never seen an SL with the headlight glass washers, eventhough I've seen them on the W108 and W109 series alongside the W113's.
Walter Klatt
1967 220SL diesel
1963 230SL gas nearly stripped
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: J. Huber on November 29, 2005, 19:49:10: Ken, I find it interesting that yours came with the black top option. My colors are identical (717-332-115 MB-tex) but with the 723 navy blue top.

Wonder if it was a request from original buyer or they built x amount with blue and x amount with black....?

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Help with build card translation?
Post by: Klaus on December 04, 2005, 19:52:08: Ken asked:
"Were the chassis numbers sequential with just the transmission identification number changing dependent on whether the car had a manual transmission (#10) or an automatic (#12)?"

Interestingly enough, the chassis numbers were sequential independent of transmission type, but the engine numbers were not. Engine numbers were separately started at 000001 depending on transmission.

Klaus
1969 280 SL