Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Question and comments on Originality => Topic started by: Jack the Knife on May 12, 2025, 01:16:03

Title: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: Jack the Knife on May 12, 2025, 01:16:03
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNHl7o1tmwQ

The coco mats at 5:58 are identical to the ones that were originally sold with my car and are reflected on my car's build sheet. They were also in tatters, but I can more clearly see the pattern and style in this car.

Very interesting aluminum(?) fan at 9:10, compared to my plastic or whatever it is fan on my "'64" (build date was Feb. '65).

Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: zoegrlh on May 12, 2025, 11:57:31
I have the aluminum alloy type of fan on my German spec 1970 280SL.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: MikeSimon on May 13, 2025, 23:21:33
I have the aluminum alloy type of fan on my German spec 1970 280SL.

Maybe MB installed whatever they had that day in the parts bin? My German spec 280SL built in November 1970 has a plastic fan.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: Duncan200 on May 14, 2025, 00:38:19
Maybe MB installed whatever they had that day in the parts bin? My German spec 280SL built in November 1970 has a plastic fan.

I too can vouch for MB fitting whatever they had available, given my late 66 230 has a long stroke crank and 250 rods fitted to it.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: rwmastel on June 07, 2025, 19:01:35
Since this is the "originality" forum, I'll ask you, Duncan200, how do you know that those parts were installed at the factory?  🏭
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: Benz Dr. on June 08, 2025, 04:19:08
You can fit a 230SL head on to a 250SL block. Just saying.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: rwmastel on June 09, 2025, 03:45:16
Hi Dan,

Yes, that's true.  This forum is about factory originality, and Duncan200 seems to believe that the factory put a long stroke crankshaft and 250SL piston rods in his 230SL.  That's what I'm questioning.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: Benz Dr. on June 09, 2025, 03:55:08
Hi Dan,

Yes, that's true.  This forum is about factory originality, and Duncan200 seems to believe that the factory put a long stroke crankshaft and 250SL piston rods in his 230SL.  That's what I'm questioning.

Yes, and the answer is a 250 block.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: Duncan200 on June 09, 2025, 10:35:46
Gee Rod if I knew you were going to be like a dog with a bone, I wouldn’t have mentioned it.

I was merely going of what my engine builder said whilst he was rebuilding my engine and it appears the rods available from Niemoller for the later 230’s also fit in a 250. He also said he was fairly confident no one had been in there before, but I’m going off of his opinion.


Happy to delete the post if it upsets anyone.

Doug
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: rwmastel on June 10, 2025, 00:18:47
Gee Rod if I knew you were going to be like a dog with a bone, I wouldn’t have mentioned it.
Ha!  Sorry, didn't mean to be annoying.  Maybe someone in 1970 was trying to hot rod it a bit to keep up with the 280SLs?   ???
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: Duncan200 on June 10, 2025, 01:17:31
Ha!  Sorry, didn't mean to be annoying.  Maybe someone in 1970 was trying to hot rod it a bit to keep up with the 280SLs?   ???

Given my daily is a 430hp Audi SQ7, as we say here, the 230 wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding.
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: lowpad on June 11, 2025, 13:03:22
This was an interesting video of a very original & relatively unmolested late 230SL. One thing that cracked me up was the "wrinkle" below the RH windshield pillar. My car has this as well (through far less severe), which I tried to fix during its restoration, but it still shows up (and appears to be temperature dependent). Do other 230s have this issue as well? Drives me crazy at times -- but not crazy enough to try and fix it again (which will probably result in it looking worse...).
Title: Re: Interesting features in this '67 230SL on Car Wizard
Post by: rwmastel on June 12, 2025, 03:54:45
One thing that cracked me up was the "wrinkle" below the RH windshield pillar. My car has this as well (through far less severe), which I tried to fix during its restoration, but it still shows up (and appears to be temperature dependent). Do other 230s have this issue as well?
I don't see the wrinkle in the video. Can you grab a screen shot from the video that shows it?  I'll look at my car, as it's an Oct 66 build.