Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Items for Sale => Topic started by: Pagoda250SL on January 27, 2025, 18:56:21
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Genuine Mercedes-Benz 280SL M130 2.8L Inline-6 Engine – Complete
For sale is a rare and complete Mercedes-Benz M130 2.8L inline-6 engine, originally from a 280SL Pagoda (W113). This sought-after engine is ideal for authentic restorations and is also a replacement for 280SE/280SEL models (W108/W109).
Engine Details:
✔️ Fuel System: Bosch Mechanical Fuel Injection
✔️ Mileage: Approx. 70,000 miles
✔️ Condition: Stored indoors, complete with manifolds & ignition components
Ideal For:
✔️ 280SL (W113) Restorations – Original block for an authentic rebuild
✔️ 280SE / 280SEL (W108/W109) Owners – Possible replacement
✔️ Collectors & Enthusiasts – Hard-to-find classic Mercedes engine
Price & Shipping:
💰 $4,800 OBO – Motivated seller, reasonable offers considered
📍 Located in Pennsylvania – Local pickup available
🚚 Freight shipping available – Freight shipping
Terms & Contact:
🔹 Sold as-is – No warranties or returns
🔹 Serious buyers only – Feel free to message with questions!
🔥 Rare and complete engine – Don’t miss out on this classic Mercedes find! 🔥
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Hi. Welcome to the group.
You say it comes complete with carburetor, and then you show a mechanical fuel injection pump in the first picture. Can you share a picture of the engine number tag, or the stamped engine number next to where the tag would be, if missing? A picture of the ID tag on that pump would be helpful as well.
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Thank you for your interest in the Mercedes-Benz M127 engine. You’re absolutely right—I listed "carburetor" by mistake. This engine is equipped with the factory Bosch mechanical fuel injection system (PES6KL 708120 R24 Y pump). I appreciate you catching that.
Regarding your request for additional photos:
✅ Engine block number: 130 011 01 01 (Stamped on the block)
✅ Injection pump ID tag: EP/RLA 1/45 R – 0408 026 031 – 02731451
Let me know if you have any other questions!
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thats not an m127 engine.. just look at side covers on block..
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The engine number 'stamped on block" does not seem to be an engine number, but the ID no on the cylinder head. As Sead says, it is not a 230SL engine. The number on the FI pump points towards a 280 engine of some sorts.
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Can someone help me figure out what it is?
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Thankyou for your help it is a 280 because of the pump?
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Here is info on the engine number, including its location https://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/EngineNumber
I'd suggest locating the number and posting a clear picture of it so any prospect knows what you are actually selling. Yes, the injection pump suggests a 280, but who knows if it's from that engine or from some other engine. There is enough confusion here that I don't think anything can be taken at face value
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The engine number is stamped on the machined area on the block, below head, left hand side, 5-6th cylinder area. In case machined area there is empty, look for Tauchaggregat plate, a bit towards the front of the engine.
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Confirmed, 280SE, see pics.
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Nope. Pagoda engine.
What it says on the head does not matter that much. Number is important.
But I think it is a replacement engine. It should have a Tauschaggregat plate. Looks to me not the entire number is the factory number.
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Nailed it down to a W108 280SE/A
Thanks for your input!
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As Pawel says, engine number 130-983 is a 280SL Pagoda engine
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The 280 SE/A ID is a cylinder head ID and is on a lot of different 280 M130 engines. The engine serial number on the block identifies it as a 130-983, 280SL engine. One thing that is NOT right, however, is that SE/A indicates a head with "oval" (later) combustion chamber, whereas serial number ..7624 for Automatic (12) indicates a square (early) combustion chamber. Somehow, I remember a more complete FI pump number that had R24Y in it. It has been deleted. That could further help identify. But I think this whole thing is a mix and match of different M130 engine components which resulted in non-function and is the reason the engine is not in a car.
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The 12 suggests it came from a left hand drive automatic car
Based on numbers, its probably still for a 1970 model year or very early 1971 Model year if you assume its from a US car as it noted left hand drive with an automatic tranny.
Why would left hand drive with auto tranny make it a US car? Mine is LHD and AT (12) and not a US car.
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Nailed it down to a W108 280SE/A
Thanks for your input!
No, it is not. Pagoda block, head is a question mark.
Look, Pagoda engines are more valuable and sought for. I think (but I am not the most qualified expert here) you have a replacement engine that was factory spare part to be fitted by dealer in a car were engine failed. Nothing wrong with that. Could you:
- see if you have a plate located a bit towards the front of the engine from the engine number
- show us a picture of the front left side of the engine right where the ignition distributor is fitted
— see if you have marking on the head, small digits, like 9 or 9.5
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Ok everyone is saying it is a 280 Sl Pagoda thankyou all for your help you are all very knowledgeable
I am going to try to find all the numbers and post them for you all
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Ok I am going to try to find those numbers for you
Thankyou for the info
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you were right thankyou
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I just realized - you have this engine with support arms. Those are car type specific. What markings you have there on these arms?
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I just realized - you have this engine with support arms. Those are car type specific. What markings you have there on these arms?
I think that may not tell us much. I think the engine was installed in a Pagoda but was removed because it did not work. I come back to my earlier comment that block and head are mismatched.
here is what we know:
- Engine block M130-983 280SL
- Engine serial number 7624 before change to "oval" combustion chambers
- Cylinder head 280SE/A "oval" combustion chambers, Cylinder head casting number 130 011 01 01 non-SL
- Fuel injection pump R24Y 280SL (?)
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This is fun!
Mike, of course, however:
- the casting number - we hear it is stamped on the block - not sure where it is for now
- I think I see Tauschaggregat plate on the picture right next to number field on the block
- the last 5 digits of the engine number is not factory stamped, it may not be that engine, it may be the number of the engine that was replaced and this engine (replacement engine) may be later engine with oval shape of the chambers; yes, I know it would be silly to stamp the engine number like that but only if installer realized the chambers changed; or someone might have wanted "matching numbers" and would kill for it
I am not sure if anyone would attempt screwing oval head to square block - the difference is very visible, I am not sure how likely it is.
As for FIP - well, 1000 scenarios here...
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While engine numbers are important, they're not everything. The obsession with engine numbers around here is mildly amusing.
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While engine numbers are important, they're not everything. The obsession with engine numbers around here is mildly amusing.
Who is obsessed with engine numbers? We are using it, trying to help the OP to identify what it is. What is your opinion, looking down at us from your high horse?
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Who is obsessed with engine numbers? We are using it, trying to help the OP to identify what it is. What is your opinion, looking down at us from your high horse?
My high horse? That's rich...........
How many engines have you rebuilt?
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My high horse? That's rich...........
How many engines have you rebuilt?
What does that have to do with it? Your condescending comments about a (non-existing!) "obsession" with engine numbers did contribute absolutely nothing to the issue being discussed. I wonder what would be the first question you would ask a potential customer who has an unidentified engine and wanted to know what it was? Is it air-cooled? ::) ???
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Gentleman, at this point let’s remember why we are all here, to help each other.
Close the computer, get some rest, and come back another day.
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A couple of people have said this is a replacement engine. How are you determining that?
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Last part of number not factory stamped + Tauschaggregat plate, most likely, present.
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found another number
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You have found the firing order of the engine,same numbers should be on the valve cover.
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Zundung = ignition/spark
Folge = sequence/order
See also reply 3 in this thread, with a picture of the plate that Pawel has been referring to:
https://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=26776.0
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I thought the marked may be the tag, but looking at it again, I was probably wrong...
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Pawel: I think you can see the two holes for the rivets below the engine number, where the "Tauschaggregat" tag would be mounted?
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Yes Mike, my thinking also. No plate remaining if there was one but the rivet holes suggest there used to be a plate.
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Pawel: I think you can see the two holes for the rivets below the engine number, where the "Tauschaggregat" tag would be mounted?
Yes, I could see them below the engine number, but I have seen one, on one of the cars in the club, fitted elsewhere, more towards the center of the engine. Anyway I was wrong about it.
Could be, however, that indeed the plate was in the correct place but removed.