Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Commercial Advertising => Topic started by: BobH on July 29, 2024, 07:27:35

Title: Auction site
Post by: BobH on July 29, 2024, 07:27:35
https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1965-mercedes-benz-230-sl-pagoda-4Xey58?bsft_aaid=a5ce63ed-6419-48b8-adb6-8692f74daf04&bsft_clkid=e27ab808-3ca0-435a-a31e-07609a8bb567&bsft_eid=6d404143-0a84-c595-eae9-751ab491fca9&bsft_ek=2024-07-27T09%3A00%3A00Z&bsft_lx=12&bsft_mid=1e15bfc1-9363-4203-96cc-57fb28c3d77d&bsft_mime_type=html&bsft_tv=17&bsft_txnid=ab3882ae-73eb-4f09-b697-60e9ec4da2c4&bsft_uid=aa05e8e4-5330-4d6b-8667-5a2046877b51&utm_campaign=broadcast-i-saturday-uk-email-i-0-90-days-i-27-07-24&utm_content=saturday-newsletter-27-07-24&utm_medium=email&utm_source=blueshift

Currently on an auction site, description as follows:

History and Paperwork
Registered in 1965
In current ownership for approximately 2 years
Imported from the dry state of Texas
First registered in the UK in 2023, according to the DVLA
Car has mostly been in storage with minimal mileage since recent work
Car is highly original and has no known history of restoration
The vendor is reluctantly selling due to loss of storage
Viewing/inspection in person more than welcome
Currently indicates 55,733 miles on a five-figure odometer - check the pictures
While this isn't confirmed, the car's condition does seem to support it
MOT exempt
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: stickandrudderman on July 31, 2024, 08:45:53
That car needs a fair bit of work to finish and the price has already exceeded what I thought it would make.
Auctions are funny things. I believe colour has the most significant impact on price.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: BobH on July 31, 2024, 09:26:00
It was the description that made me smile

Car is highly original and has no known history of restoration

And then a picture of a full respray and list of replacement parts?
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Cees Klumper on July 31, 2024, 14:08:40
How interesting to see one without any of the lower side moldings. Positively ugly!

As a famous Dutch plastic surgeon once said: "The difference between a beautiful woman and a less beautiful one is question of millimeters".
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: mclewis on July 31, 2024, 23:16:05
The ashtray on the door is an interesting touch. The engine compartment looks a bit funky. A lot of work, indeed.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: johnk on August 01, 2024, 03:11:56
I always would be worried about buying a car that has been freshly painted before sale. Makes me worry about putting
Lipstick on a pig.

Of course the fact this paint prep used guide coat gives at least some indication of a quality job.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: mdsalemi on August 01, 2024, 11:06:39
I’m amused by the comment “imported from the dry state of Texas”…

Say what? The gulf coast of the USA which includes a lot of Texas gets a lot of rain and being the gulf coast has salt air. Ask people in the Houston area if they consider themselves “dry”…

The actual condition of the car TODAY is really what matters.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: JamesL on September 08, 2024, 08:14:17
It’s back

https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1965-mercedes-benz-230-sl-pagoda-nPqOV4
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: do8erman on September 08, 2024, 10:52:19
Threshold panels ?
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Jonny B on September 08, 2024, 14:57:18
Can somebody else take a close look at the engine bay? I don't see a the fuel injection pump, a fuel filter, and the fuel lines on ther right side of the engine are pretty funky??

This is one scary vehicle.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Jordan on September 08, 2024, 18:13:09
And I don't see any throttle linkage across the top.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Paul & Dolly on September 08, 2024, 18:27:42

Interesting description,considering the lack of the Injection pump....
From the description on line...

Thevendor notes that the handbrake may need attention in the near future
Engine bay looks in fine order
Car has mostly been in storage with minimal mileage since recent work
As a result it may benefit from a tuneup before hitting the road
We understand the car to be in fine health
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: AndrewB on September 08, 2024, 21:19:27
Looks like a franken-car
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Cees Klumper on September 09, 2024, 01:48:03
The lack of a fuel injection pump is very strange. There's a 107 fuel filter in the engine bay.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Peter h on September 09, 2024, 04:36:12
M114 , D jetronic
Mercedes 250 ce
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Fresnomike on September 09, 2024, 04:44:12
There's a manual shut off valve in the heater inlet line. That's means a rebuild of the heater valve (best case scenario) or replacement of the heater core is necessary.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Cees Klumper on September 09, 2024, 06:35:57
M114 , D jetronic
Mercedes 250 ce

Thanks for clearing up this mystery Peter!

Someone ought to tell the auction house ...
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Paul99 on September 09, 2024, 10:21:53
I have visited a few UK auctions just out of curiosity, and found out that the wording in the description is the sellers words. Sometimes tweaked up by the auction house, but in the small print it says that the description is nothing to do with the auction house, and do your own checks etc cant be held responsible etc..etc.  And the seller is unlikely to say its rubbish.

So usual thing of buyer beware. 
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Benz Dr. on September 09, 2024, 18:14:15
M114 , D jetronic
Mercedes 250 ce

Not that it's anywhere near correct, but the 250CE engine is a decent build. Every bit as strong as a 250SE unit.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: lreppond on September 14, 2024, 16:12:25
Looks like a franken-car

Highly original, indeed!  Who’s kidding who? 
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: JamesL on September 16, 2024, 18:30:57
Reserve not met at £43,500
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: JamesL on October 16, 2024, 07:22:19
And it’s back again
https://www.carandclassic.com/auctions/1965-mercedes-benz-230-sl-pagoda-nR75M4?bsft_aaid=a5ce63ed-6419-48b8-adb6-8692f74daf04&bsft_bk=block2&bsft_clkid=84e30639-c7cc-4f7e-b74e-44fb59f92091&bsft_eid=c626c1c3-7a2f-eb5e-c898-7ce9ab71b433&bsft_ek=2024-10-16T07%3A00%3A00Z&bsft_lx=39&bsft_mid=6c400e69-e952-4014-9cb9-87b9c649e355&bsft_mime_type=html&bsft_pid=1e964a85-a14a-4ae4-a93d-61007dc20ebb&bsft_pp=5&bsft_tv=42&bsft_txnid=69b5b18e-8eaf-40b7-8cca-d6cc2f0cc37f&bsft_uid=eb2c2206-2706-426f-9e65-962b1f747515&utm_campaign=targeted-uk-new-design-automated-email-0-90-daily-02-10-24&utm_content=targeted-uk-new-design-automated-email-0-30-daily-22-07-24&utm_medium=email&utm_source=blueshift

Etsy supplied the soft top
And why would a Texas car have a kmh speedo?

There’s clearly a car here that will make a nice ride for someone but perhaps not at the price that was being asked.
Title: Re: Auction site
Post by: Paul99 on October 16, 2024, 13:46:44
think it looks a bit naff. No chrome side strips etc and boring colour.