Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: RAY on May 03, 2024, 18:25:54
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Whats the story with the Nardi steering wheels that some of our Pagoda's have.
Were they ever original to a Pagoda, where they ever an optional extra or are they just an after market customisation item ?
What do our members think of them on a Pagoda ?
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I think Nardi steering wheels are generally respected after market addition to our cars. Tenths of threads written about them here, just try search.
There are two camps: fans of Pagoda factory steering wheels and Nardi supporters. I am in the Nardi camp. The stock steering wheel was not designed for Pagoda and in my opinion it just does not fit it well. It is too big (it had to accommodate turning wheels in heavier cars without power steering), plastic is fragile, they make it difficult to get to the driver's seat, they cover gauges if you are of certain height and they, in my opinion, just do not fit the aesthetics of the interior. That is why I am in the Nardi camp.
Having said that, I prefer Nardi Anni 60, which is designed as per the 60ies aesthetic standards and matches Pagoda dash look and ornaments. Most of the owners go for Anni 50, which is thicker and grip feels better.
When I bought the Nardi Anni 60 with the Mercedes star horn button (black background), i have re-done the wood in my car to match the steering wheel.
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The steering wheel in Mercedes Benz cars has been a topic of discussion ever since the 60s. It was always an issue, that the wheels were too large. Steering and suspension engineers were looking at a possible rate of 1½ to 2 handwheel turns per second in order to achieve safe steering during backward parking and evasive maneuver operations. Mercedes Benz did not have power steering as standard in their passenger cars until the 70s. So, to be able to steer a manual steering gear you needed a certain size steering wheel, considering a rather heavy weight on the front axle due to 6-cyl and 8-cyl engines. Also, the "typical" MB customer and driver was a male older than 45. All these factors and the scenario of having the same steering wheel for manual steering and power steering models resulted in steering wheels "oversized" for many people's taste.
The Italian wood-rim Nardi wheels were a coveted sports car accessory in the 60s and many owners of various brands of "sporty" cars put them in their vehicles.
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I like the Nardi wheels and I also like the original steering wheels, especially in ivory. I do believe that the Nardi wheels were strictly aftermarket or dealer installs. Just my opinion.
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I have the original ivory steering wheel in my ‘67 230SL. Like with a few of you.., I do enjoy the larger wheel.., been using it for going on 60 years. Also.., have factory installed power steering too…, PS makes for for nice cornering.
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If you want one Ray I have several....
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Hi,
Afaik the original Nardi wooden steering wheels had a diameter of 42/43 cm, later ones had a diameter of 39 cm. Steering wheels with rivets (Anni50) were never installed in Mercedes models.
Procurement of a suitable hub and jorn button is more of a problem.
@Colin: Which one can you offer?
...WRe
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I have ordered my Anni60 (I think it fits Pagoda ornamental patterns and 60ies style best) together with hub and button with the star (5 colors to pick from) from Austrian Nardi dealer whose contact info were provided to me by Nardi. It was 4-5 years ago, I think.
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Hi,
here some information for Nardi fans about Nardi wooden steering wheels, 1966 catalogue and 1969 production.
...WRe
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Absolutely love my Nardi, it's stunning.
But lives in a bag in the garage as both of us struggle to see the speed/revs at a glance with it on, and clearance of the indicator stalk is not great - it’s 39cm which I think is 15.3” in old money. The boss prefers driving the original wheel.
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Hi,
here some information for Nardi fans about Nardi wooden steering wheels, 1966 catalogue and 1969 production.
...WRe
Thank you!
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WRe, you have a lot of great signatures on page 3 of the 1966 catalogue.
jz
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WRe, you have a lot of great signatures on page 3 of the 1966 catalogue.
In fact, giants of Italian car engineering.
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Hi,
here some information for Nardi fans about Nardi wooden steering wheels, 1966 catalogue and 1969 production.
...WRe
What prices!! The 230SL wheel was Italian Lire 38,000 in 1966, about $61 at the time.
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Hi,
on the other side todays prices for Nardi wooden steering wheels are moon prices, even you can't compare it but see https://www.russian4x4.de/en-ersatzteile-789/?listtype=search&searchparam=holzlenkrad.
...WRe