Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Research & Development => Topic started by: Pawel66 on January 02, 2024, 12:24:38

Title: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 02, 2024, 12:24:38
I have just spotted advertisement of this company on facebook. I do not know them, I do not have any references, but perhaps someone would be interested:

http://notronig.com/

Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: mdsalemi on January 02, 2024, 12:31:57
Wow, very interesting…

Now if we could get translations of the magazine articles shown in the photos that would be helpful…
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 02, 2024, 13:59:49
The M100 conversion? Sure, I will try to do it when I have a minute...
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 02, 2024, 16:25:12
Enclosed quick translation.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: mdsalemi on January 02, 2024, 17:12:40
The M100 conversion? Sure, I will try to do it when I have a minute...

On the website there was more than one magazine article, unless they had it repeated? In any case, any translation of any of their "test reports" or similar would be welcome.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Cees Klumper on January 02, 2024, 17:41:36
From my quick read, they only do their own installations, meaning the car has to be physically brought to them for the installation of the system. They do not sell DIY kits. So unless that changes, or they set up an 'authorized dealer network' in various countries, this may not be a viable option for many of us here.

Just to note that a fellow Lancia Fulvia enthusiast has been working on creating a fuel injection system to replace the dual carburettor set-up on his Fulvia for the past few years and the amount of engineering and custom fabrication of the necessary parts is quite significant.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 02, 2024, 20:06:20
I will ask them, I will be talking to them about my 190SL.

You are right, if it is only local with physical presence - would fly for just a few of us.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 02, 2024, 20:11:43
On the website there was more than one magazine article, unless they had it repeated? In any case, any translation of any of their "test reports" or similar would be welcome.

Sure, as soon as I have a minute…
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: AndrewB on January 04, 2024, 19:05:46
Looks like a phenomenal fuel injection system
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: AdelaidePagoda on January 05, 2024, 02:19:33
Has anyone actually converted to this system? I would be most interested to hear if it is as good as proclaimed.

This unique technology may provide a solution for MFI’s that simply can’t be repaired/ replaced or are uneconomical to do so. There are fewer centres that can repair W113 MFI’s (none in Australia) and future options will be required for the next generation of Pagoda custodians. A network of global authorised installers would a wonderful addition to the classic car market.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 05, 2024, 06:33:04
I will be asking around fellow club Members here about it and will pass on remarks.

I had exchange of emails with the supplier. Indeed - they do not sell DIY kits, you have to get the car there. They say they have to do the mapping themselves, which is 50% of success. I advised that, as we can now perform a surgery remotely, they can probably map the car remotely. We will see. They said at some stage they may look for a partner on the other side of the pond as they realize the physical presence of the car has limitations.

Their main cars are Pagodas. They have solution for me for 190SL, even with Stromberg, which uses W123 manifold, as they installed a system on a W123 car already. They also made a system for W111 (if I am not mistaken) with M127 with two-section FIP, like I have in my Ponton.

It looks good indeed.

I will trnaslate the articles when I have a moment.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 06, 2024, 19:45:24
Please find enclosed second translated article, tests this time.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Pawel66 on January 06, 2024, 22:00:28
Please find enclosed the third article on NotroniG.

This one was, actually, the first one published in "Automobilista" monthly.
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Sead on January 10, 2024, 18:16:04
FYI
system "M" costs 3.600,-€ !!!
Title: Re: Electronic Injection
Post by: Jack the Knife on February 18, 2024, 23:19:56
I believe this very nice 250SL rally car was converted to EFI, amongst several other reliability and performance upgrades. Nice clean engine bay.

https://www.classicargarage.com/projects/mercedes-benz-250-sl-restoration-rally-preparation