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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Question and comments on Originality => Topic started by: John Betsch - "SADIE" on August 30, 2023, 22:25:48

Title: Key Authenticity
Post by: John Betsch - "SADIE" on August 30, 2023, 22:25:48
Preparing to take my Pagoda for a ride, I happen to glance at my keys and noticed how "weathered" they appeared. 

I checked  the Tech Manual and see that it appears the original keys were made by a Neiman and a Ymos Company which mine are as shown.  My keys each have the key code stamped on them that matches my Data Card.  I assume they are the original keys for my '65.

So, that means these keys are fifty eight (58) years old.  Mercedes makes a product to last!
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: lreppond on August 30, 2023, 22:56:30
If the key codes are stamped into your keys then with a high level of certainty, these are original to the car.  Amazing!

A locksmith who has helped me said that these keys are made of steel, not brass with a chrome plating.   This makes them more durable and less prone to breaking.  I’d say your keys are proof positive of that opinion. 
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: rwmastel on September 03, 2023, 02:32:02
Mercedes makes a product to last!
You mean Ymos makes a product to last.
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: Mike Hughes on September 03, 2023, 14:42:25
European key blanks are generally steel. North American key blanks are generally made of softer brass or aluminum. Most locksmiths on this side of the pond won't cut a steel blank as one pass will destroy their cutting wheels, designed for cutting the softer blanks.
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: John Betsch - "SADIE" on September 04, 2023, 13:28:51
Never thought of it before, but based on this thread, will have to add " this Sl also retains it's original (almost sixty-year old) keys" to my car info.
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: MikeSimon on September 06, 2023, 14:50:59
When did the cars start to have a plastic handle?
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: Pawel66 on September 06, 2023, 15:29:09
You mean plastic key head?

As of ident. no.: 044 010356 - this is what I see in parts list when Master Key and plastic key head appeared.
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: Jonny B on September 06, 2023, 17:50:48
Checking the list changes, published in Pagoda Notes, and available in the tech manual. The plastic headed keys became available on 250 SL, VIN ending in 3049.
Title: Re: Key Authenticity
Post by: BobH on September 06, 2023, 18:15:13
When the safety changes were introduced, assume they changed from three keys to one fits all

EDIT, this has subsequently found to be incorrect, check the tech manual "locks"