Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: Sphe on June 29, 2005, 17:57:43

Title: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Sphe on June 29, 2005, 17:57:43
I needed to take apart my fuel pump to get it working. I figured i'd take some pictures cause everyone loves pictures to reference. I know this doesn't compare to the other tours in this forum, but that's ok.

picture of the pump with no impeller and no bottom plate
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/Sphe/2005629194945_Pumpwobottom.jpg)

closer view from the bottom of the pump with no impeller or plate
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/Sphe/200562919545_InsidePump.jpg)

Impeller
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/Sphe/2005629195529_Impeller.jpg)

Bottom plate all nasty needing a cleaning
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/Sphe/2005629195631_BadBottom.jpg)

P.s. how do i attach pics so i dont have to insert the link manually?


Eugene
1965 230SL, Max Speed: Zero
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: knirk on June 30, 2005, 01:54:20
Nice pictures. Make sure they are smaller than 80kb and they will upload directly.

Per G. Birkeland
69 280 sl aut 834
Norway
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on June 30, 2005, 02:12:52
Eugene,
Have a look at this thread, especially Joe Alexander's advice about cleaning up the impellor and cover.
http://index.php?topic=303

Hope it helps

naj

65 230SL
68 280SL
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Sphe on June 30, 2005, 04:35:28
Pics were smaller than 80kb... i uploaded them, they just didn't add themselves to the body of the message...

Eugene
1965 230SL, Max Speed: Zero
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: George Des on June 30, 2005, 06:17:25
Eugene, Based on your pictures, I think you've found out why your pump was not running. If the shaft wikk turn now, the armature most likely has not "welded" itsef to the "can". You'll need to clean up that impeller with some abrasive polish like Brasso. You can also use Brasso on the pump body side as well. Make sure you know which side of the impeller faces the pump body. If it goes in wrong, the pump will spin but not pump fuel. Also, while you have the pump out you might as well got the extra mile and take the can off the pump body to inspect the brushes and the armature commutator to be sure. To do this you simply remove the three hold down screws and pull the can off. You should be able to make a good determination of condition of the brushes and comm w/o disaasembling further. In any case, replace the o-ring and make sure the can goes back on precisely the same way it was, otherwise the pump will run backwards. If you need to replace the brushes, let me know and I'll give you some further things you need to watch out for. Good luck

george Des
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: rwmastel on June 30, 2005, 10:07:49
quote:
Originally posted by Sphe

P.s. how do i attach pics so i dont have to insert the link manually?
http://index.php?topic=12

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: ja17 on June 30, 2005, 19:54:34
Hello Rodd,
There is no "attach image" button on the quick reply feature, at least on my computer anyway.? I must upload images by first posting the reply then going back in to my post  by hitting the "edit" button, then the "attach image" button appears below!?

Maybe others are also experiencing this difficulty? I thought it was just my ignorance.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Sphe on June 30, 2005, 20:15:29
I did read the thread on attaching, but i can upload it, but i have to link it myself, it didn't do the automatic paperclip thingy

Eugene
1965 230SL, Max Speed: Zero
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Sphe on June 30, 2005, 20:16:29
and george, isn't there a good chance that those screws are going to need to be drilled out also?

Eugene
1965 230SL, Max Speed: Zero
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: rwmastel on July 01, 2005, 22:00:35
quote:
Originally posted by ja17

Hello Rodd,
There is no "attach image" button on the quick reply feature, at least on my computer anyway.? I must upload images by first posting the reply then going back in to my post  by hitting the "edit" button, then the "attach image" button appears below!?

Maybe others are also experiencing this difficulty? I thought it was just my ignorance.

Joe Alexander
Blacklick, Ohio

Joe and others,

I reply by clicking on the little Reply icon over the individual message I'm replying to.  It looks like a paper with a curved arrow pointing back to the left.  This is the "Reply With Quote" button.  (You can always delete out the other person's quote.)  Below the section in which you type your message, there is a paper clip icon.  That's what I use.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Jonny B on May 10, 2009, 19:00:06
Peter,

By any chance do you still have the photo available some where on the site as noted at the start (bottom) of this thread. I was going to use this as another "Tour" topic for the newsletter. Or were these lost when the site was converted to the new format??

Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Peter van Es on May 10, 2009, 21:03:23
The pictures were indeed not converted to the new site automatically, due to the clumsy way they were included originally. They were not lost, however. I uploaded them again, and changed the original post to make them visible...

Peter
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Allenh on May 11, 2009, 01:15:58
Sphe,  I like your pump! Been there.  I little tip, before you install the impeller and button it up, use some 1000grit on some glass to be sure there are no burrs from handling and cleaning.  Otherwise it may be noisey, hard to start (the pump motor) or it may not move at all.  Takes only about a minute, will likely save an additional disassembly.

I may have my Benz in the Cap district over the summer.  One of my co-workers from up there tells me about a popular corral up on Wolf Road.

Allen
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: glenn on May 11, 2009, 01:28:37
I've got one that needs a dentist- missing two teeth on the impeller.
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: ja17 on May 11, 2009, 03:30:58
Hello,

Take the intake fitting off while your at it and clean out the fuel screen on it.
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Peter van Es on May 11, 2009, 08:03:34
Please note that you are all responding to a 4 year old thread initiated by someone who has not been on the site for over 12 months now...

It was only resurrected because Jon B wanted access to the pictures. Jon, next time just use the "Report to Moderator"  button with your question. I can then add the pictures without reviving an out-of-date thread!

Peter
Title: Re: Fuel pump tour (mini)
Post by: Jonny B on May 11, 2009, 23:02:30
Peter,

Sorry about that, I will try to do better in the future! Us old dogs come by new tricks in a difficult manner!