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Title: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Jack the Knife on February 27, 2023, 23:19:46
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Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Benz Dr. on February 27, 2023, 23:38:16
That's a fin car. Could be a 300SE.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Jack the Knife on February 27, 2023, 23:54:13
That's a fin car. Could be a 300SE.

Here's a bonus. I found a another phone when I googled "W112" "car phone"!

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Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Cees Klumper on February 28, 2023, 02:19:20
Not handsfree!
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: JamesL on February 28, 2023, 08:02:49
No seatbelt
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: WRe on February 28, 2023, 09:15:09
Hi,
maybe you can find here an answer: http://www.oebl.de/Geraete/index.html.
...WRe
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: rwmastel on February 28, 2023, 17:28:37
Was the first pic removed??
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Jack the Knife on February 28, 2023, 17:38:27
It's still there for me!
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: lreppond on March 01, 2023, 05:41:38
I have no clue what company made these phones.  The first pic with the rotary dial on the transmission tunnel has me rolling in laughter. Talk about a safety hazard! I don’t know what’s more dated: her phone or funky glasses?   

Where’d you unearth these pix? 
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: WRe on March 01, 2023, 07:12:47
Hi,
I've asked the person responsible for the website mentioned above and Stephan answered me as follows.

"This is an Autophon Radiovox system in Switzerland. Very well explained here:
https://www.watson.ch/wissen/schweiz/786459243-natel-from-statussymbol-zum-everyday-object

But it lasted until 1978 before it became a real car telephone network, called  Natel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natel).
The picture is well known but not contemporary and as far as I know was not taken until the 2000's."

https://blog.nationalmuseum.ch/2018/01/natel-vom-statussymbol-zum-alltagsobjekt/

...WRe
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Jack the Knife on March 02, 2023, 00:00:17
I have no clue what company made these phones.  The first pic with the rotary dial on the transmission tunnel has me rolling in laughter. Talk about a safety hazard! I don’t know what’s more dated: her phone or funky glasses?   

Where’d you unearth these pix?

A friend of mine from the forum here sent me a photo of a 1960s~ car phone he has. It's a duplex phone from Motorola. If I had to guess, it was probably one that was used by the oil men. Anyway, I was curious about whether any nice car phones were ever in an SL, and I went looking for photos. These two just happened to be there if I googled "1960s car phone," and though I haven't found one in an SL, I'm sure they existed. I thought it would be cool to have one that works like a walkie-talkie for rallies.

Hi,
I've asked the person responsible for the website mentioned above and Stephan answered me as follows.

"This is an Autophon Radiovox system in Switzerland. Very well explained here:
https://www.watson.ch/wissen/schweiz/786459243-natel-from-statussymbol-zum-everyday-object

But it lasted until 1978 before it became a real car telephone network, called  Natel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natel).
The picture is well known but not contemporary and as far as I know was not taken until the 2000's."

https://blog.nationalmuseum.ch/2018/01/natel-vom-statussymbol-zum-alltagsobjekt/

...WRe

Is the first or the second photo regarded to be anachronistic? I'd guess the first, since the photo is really too sharp for the time for anything outside of a studio (in my opinion). Thank you for being curious and chasing down the facts!
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: BobH on March 03, 2023, 08:33:43
Not handsfree!

Handsfree kits were available!

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.4e723a51c8d59d0766da77aaca573d56?rik=xdn7M0b71Inj5Q&riu=http%3a%2f%2fnorberthaupt.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2013%2f01%2fbluetooth-1880.jpg&ehk=B2zysnVmFC6Rf4k2Jm%2bbXLSuJviBpOXFPG6F8HPJ%2bCg%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: lreppond on March 07, 2023, 03:17:50
Handsfree kits were available!

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.4e723a51c8d59d0766da77aaca573d56?rik=xdn7M0b71Inj5Q&riu=http%3a%2f%2fnorberthaupt.com%2fwp-content%2fuploads%2f2013%2f01%2fbluetooth-1880.jpg&ehk=B2zysnVmFC6Rf4k2Jm%2bbXLSuJviBpOXFPG6F8HPJ%2bCg%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

They’re a jokester in every group! 
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: johnk on March 07, 2023, 04:21:35
Anyone know when they first made wireless phones available? I remember another kid tell me his dad had one when I was in grade school about 1970 but I since often wonder if that was possible.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: DavidAPease on March 07, 2023, 04:37:47
According to this article:

   http://www.wb6nvh.com/MTSfiles/Carphone1.htm (http://www.wb6nvh.com/MTSfiles/Carphone1.htm)

"The first car telephones connected to the Public Switched Telephone Network in the United States were put into service in 1946..."

The photos in the article are great, especially the trunk full of radio equipment.

           -David
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: Jack the Knife on March 07, 2023, 04:41:34
Anyone know when they first made wireless phones available? I remember another kid tell me his dad had one when I was in grade school about 1970 but I since often wonder if that was possible.

If you mean regular cell phones, then the man below made the first cell phone call in 1973. But it wasn't for another 10 years that an ordinary consumer could buy the gigantic brick phones, which were the first commercially-available cell phones. As for car phones, they'd been around for a long time before. Notably the oil industry out in Texas had a huge demand for them. Texas had more car phone towers in the 50s/60s than anywhere by far.

(https://cdn.britannica.com/93/172793-050-33278C86/Cell-phone-pioneer-Martin-Cooper.jpg)
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Post by: johnk on March 07, 2023, 12:23:22
So I guess my memory serves me right. Thanks gents.
Title: Re: Can anyone identify this car phone in this Ponton?
Post by: mdsalemi on March 07, 2023, 15:38:21
   http://www.wb6nvh.com/MTSfiles/Carphone1.htm (http://www.wb6nvh.com/MTSfiles/Carphone1.htm)
...The photos in the article are great, especially the trunk full of radio equipment.

That's a fabulous article on the exceedingly rare and costly "zero generation" of telephone systems for cars. However, what it fails to mention is a parallel development used by many--maybe even more than that shown in the article. That was the use of mobile "ham" radios, using "repeaters" that connected the radio transceivers to the telephone systems. Somewhere in our membership we probably have some old "hams" that can better answer this; I was not a ham, nor did I ever have a license or a radio. I cannot remember but I think that the frequencies were ¾ meter or 2 meter bands. You'd somehow connect to a repeater and then somehow make the call. In several places I lived ham radios (with their commensurate vanity plates, and car antennas) in cars were quite popular.

I believe my Pagoda once had one of these radio telephone ham transceivers in the trunk. That was the kind of electronic tinkering my uncle used to do. I remember seeing it as a kid taking up a bit of trunk space! Knowing my uncle it was probably a Heathkit that he built himself.

For those Hollywood and or trivia buffs, note that U.S. Patent 2,292,387 was issued on August 11, 1942 to Hedy Kiesler Markey, better known as Hedy Lamarr. This patent was for "frequency hopping" the principles of which are incorporated into Bluetooth and GPS technology and are akin to methods used in CDMA and Wi-Fi; it was essential for what became "cell phone" technology. Lamarr was described as one of the greatest movie actresses of all time, whose work was in Hollywood's golden era.