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Off Topic => Other cars => Topic started by: mdsalemi on February 22, 2022, 00:51:11

Title: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: mdsalemi on February 22, 2022, 00:51:11
https://qz.com/2130711/

Hopefully nobody here has got one on order…
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: MikeSimon on February 22, 2022, 13:21:38
Friend of mine has GT3 on order and is waiting for his allocation. He was told that this event will have a snowball effect on all outstanding and future deliveries.
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: Pawel66 on February 22, 2022, 13:42:29
If these are EVs that are cause of this, as I read in a lot of sources, I hope it will have a snowball effect on fire regulations. Scared to think this happens with an EV in the underground garage...
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: mdsalemi on February 22, 2022, 16:39:43
Lithium batteries can be dangerous, in more than one way. Lithium reacts intensely with water, forming lithium hydroxide and highly flammable hydrogen. The batteries themselves can be a fire and explosion hazard. All you have to do is search YouTube for some experiments with common lithium batteries to see. Some react violently to overcharging/heat and also to mechanical failure.

To be fair, gasoline is highly flammable and explosive as well, in the right conditions. But, fuel tanks are generally empty when transporting cars by ship or air.

In any case this ship is probably going to suffer a good loss of a lot of the cargo--hard to say how they'll contain it or deal with the remaining cargo.

I was surprised that the destination was not the port of New Jersey/New York, Baltimore, Savannah or Charleston, but Davisville, Rhode Island. Yeah, I had not heard of it either!
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: MikeSimon on February 22, 2022, 18:52:24
Someone reported it will cost the VW group X-billion of Dollars. Aren't these shipments insured? Doesn't the ship line have insurance?
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: bogeyman on February 22, 2022, 19:43:18
The owner of the product carries marine insurance.
I once had a full container of Johnnie Walker Scotch wash overboard in heavy seas. Insurance covered it 100%.
Davy Jones must have had a great party with 1000 cases of Scotch...
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: mdsalemi on February 22, 2022, 20:59:16
Of course this shipment is insured.

But considering the supply chain crisis worldwide, every computer chip for a car is extremely important as is all the other components that  make up an automobile. Thus the finished product is something that can’t easily be replaced today. Guaranteed, if anybody had one of those cars on order they probably waited six months to a year for them. Now the clock starts ticking again for replacement.
Title: Re: VW, Porsche, Bentley
Post by: Mike Hughes on February 23, 2022, 00:23:23
I was surprised that the destination was not the port of New Jersey/New York, Baltimore, Savannah or Charleston, but Davisville, Rhode Island. Yeah, I had not heard of it either!

The Ford Focus RS was produced in Germany only and those destined for the U.S. and Canada were shipped out of Hamburg on Ro-Ro ships like the one on fire.  Once on the water dealers who had RSs on order were provided with a link to track the ship.  I remember the ships stopping at Davisville, RI, and Elizabeth, NJ before finally off-loading cars destined for our area in Wilmington, Delaware.  The ships went on to stop at Wilmington, NC and Jacksonville, FL and may have hit some Gulf Coast ports as well.