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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Electrical and Instruments => Topic started by: Peter on July 19, 2021, 18:54:50

Title: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 19, 2021, 18:54:50
I’m looking for the diagram of the 6-way switch - USA version see below.

I found on the forum the 4-way diagram, but the USA version is 6 way.
Does somone has the diaggram of the 6-way USA switch.

Thanks Peter
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: edwardburak@erols.com on July 19, 2021, 19:50:44
I can send a picture of my switch with the wires exposed if you would like
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: WRe on July 19, 2021, 20:08:48
Hi,
see att. picture.
...WRe
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 19, 2021, 20:17:58
I can send a picture of my switch with the wires exposed if you would like

That would be very halpfull, thanks.
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 19, 2021, 20:20:52
Hi,
see att. picture.

In the 6-way, I see only 4 connections. What do the other two do?
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: lpeterssen on July 20, 2021, 11:20:42
Put your switch on each of the positions and observe with a multimeter connected to the two unknown function post when do they have continuity.  Let’s do some Sherlock Holmes investigation on them  to find out the answer.
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: WRe on July 20, 2021, 12:01:25
Hi,
according to the wiring diagram, only 4 poles are connected and must be plugged in accordingly*:
1.) From fuse 5 black-yellow-red cable 0.75  mm²
2.) To ignition starter switch violet-white 2.5  mm²
3.) To reverse light gray-yellow 0.75  mm²
4.) To starter terminal 50 violet 2.5 mm²
...WRe

*https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Electrical/Connectors
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: mnahon on July 20, 2021, 12:33:45
Peter, if your car has a 6-way switch, you could open the plug to see if those last two sockets have any wires connected to them.
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 20, 2021, 19:43:51
It has 6 connectors, see picture below, no time today to do more research, I hope Saturday.

Peter
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: lpeterssen on July 20, 2021, 20:29:29
Peter:

The two bottom cables, un-identified so far seem to be one light green and the other green with a white stripe.

Peter please confirm the colors to look at the BBB And other electrical manuals I have on hand to discover what for are they….

Best regards

Leonardo Peterssen
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: lpeterssen on July 20, 2021, 20:48:58
Found the answer

Look at the attached picture from a MB Electrical manual.

The two until now Un-identified cables are related to the kick-down switch lacing, to be sure the car is in DRIVE to activate the kick down.

Pin 107 cable black red green feed wire from fuse 3 on automatic cars
Pin  119 green cable going to the kick down switch feed side, from there to the transmission selenoid.

Best regards
L.peterssen
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 21, 2021, 08:39:29
Dear Gents,

My car is a 280SL/8 1969 (USA version) with “emission control”.
Below the 6-way connector with wire colors
• The two green wires on the left are from the shut of solenoid on the Fuel Injection Pump.
• The others I will check later. But most probably they are what WRe has in his drawing.
• Question: The “anlass sperrcontact” is preventing starting in any position expect P?

Peter

Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Pawel66 on July 21, 2021, 10:35:49
Any position except P and N.
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: WRe on July 21, 2021, 14:31:48
Hi,
if you look in my document that describes the functions of all complementary components of the Emission Control System
https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Electrical/EmissionControlSystem
you'll find on page 4 the two additional connections from the 6-way Start Lock Switch (14) one to the Speed Relay (4) and one via a cable connector (27) to the Idle Throttle Switch (15) if I don't have an optical deflection.
...WRe
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 21, 2021, 16:19:58
I have an Emission control system 280SL USA 1968/1969 – not 70/71.

below the overview:
“6 - the micro switch” and “7 - the fuel cut off solenoid” are connected via green wires which run via the 6-way connector and switch.

Peter
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: edwardburak@erols.com on July 21, 2021, 20:53:55
this is what I have on my 1969 280sl automatic.

the small wire in the upper center position looks to be another grey/yellow wire but is actually a black wire with red stripe.
Title: Re: diaggram of the 6-way USA switch
Post by: Peter on July 25, 2021, 17:46:02
for the sake of completeness and with thanks for the drawing to WRe.

Peter