Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: Berggreen on May 28, 2021, 21:36:01
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Hi All
I have always thought that the standard shift lever in my manual 1970 280SL is too long, and it does not give you a sporty feeling, when driving the car. Thus, I would love to have a much shorter shift lever.
Now, I have seen several other manual w113s with a short shift levers - latest today at a classic car meet. The w113 was a 4-speed 250SL and it had a much shorter shift lever - almost half the length compared to my standard lever.
Is this some short shift kit, you can buy somewhere and install also in my manual 4-speed 280SL?
Does anyone know, where to get a short shift lever?
Thanks,
Christian 😎
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I have a short manual gear shift lever that came with my car. A PO must have cut down. I recently swapped it out for the normal long one. I will sell it to you.
If interested, pm me you email address and I can send you some pictures.
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I have a short manual gear shift lever that came with my car. A PO must have cut down. I recently swapped it out for the normal long one. I will sell it to you.
If interested, pm me you email address and I can send you some pictures.
Great, I will send you a PM. :)
Thanks,
Christian
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Shorter lever provides less mechanical advantage which may make shifting more difficult. Be careful for what you wish.
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Thats the way to do it, preserve your "long" one, in case you want to return to OEM. Im a big proponent of short shift kits on other cars, on our SL, I like the long shifter, and huge steering wheel, for that matter.
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Shorter lever provides less mechanical advantage which may make shifting more difficult. Be careful for what you wish.
Thanks for your feedback. :) In which way mechanical advantage?
Cheers,
Christian :)
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Thats the way to do it, preserve your "long" one, in case you want to return to OEM. Im a big proponent of short shift kits on other cars, on our SL, I like the long shifter, and huge steering wheel, for that matter.
Great, thanks and yes this is also my intention, thus not to cut my current lever short but replace it with a shorter, so that I can always return to stock again. :)
Cheers,
Christian :)
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I have one in my car and I don't like it all. Far too easy to miss a shift because the throw is so short. I actually have trouble finding fifth gear sometimes and all of the shifter bushings are new. I never had that problem when the original shifter rod was used.
I would recommend against a shorter shifter rod.
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In which way mechanical advantage?
Cheers, Christian :)
As attributed to Archimedes: “Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world.”
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I had a business partner who quoted Archimedes regularly when we were contemplating leveraged buy outs of companies. I kept reminding him that the guy was a mathematician, preoccupied with theoretical issues, while we function in the real world, where you have to account (among many other things) for the resistance of materials, which is finite. We parted ways after a few years…
The factory installed lever makes for a very soft/easy shifting experience, I doubt that shortening it (within reason) would create a problem. The speed selection mechanism is also reasonably precise, but it is not very firm. A shorter lever will do nothing to change that.
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Thank you all for your feedback. I will give it a try with the short lever and let you know.
I can always change back again to the stock lever, if I don’t get to like it. :)
Cheers,
Christian
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Hi All
Just want to give you a final update on my short shift lever adventure. :)
Mike (Mrfatboy) sold me his 280SL short shift lever, which I have now restored with new bushings as well as a new shift knob from Mercedes.
Found out also when disassembling the old shift bushings that they were worn to pieces. Basically they were bone dry and disintegrated, when I took them out. So it was definately in time in any case that I renewed them! ;)
But I think the new short shifter looks great in my car, and I love the much more sportier feel to the gear shifting experience, I now get with the short shifter.
I don’t feel any problems with the short shifter, and I don’t miss any gears either. Only thing is that you of cause need a little more force to shift the gears, especially into reverse, because of the shorter lever arm. But again I feel this makes the gear shift feel more tight and less wobbly compared to the long standard shifter.
Thus, from my perspective, I can only recommend a shorter shifter, given that you are looking for a more sportier and tighter gear shift experience, rather than one of comfort! ;)
See picture below of the result. ;D
Cheers,
Christian
Ps: Thanks again to Mike for selling me his short shifter! :-)
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I have a shorter gear lever it gives me more feel of where the gears are and makes it less likely to force a gear. As long as your gearbox is good you shouldn't have a problem. :)
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How shorter is the new shifter compared with the original? Nice car by the way.
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Looks really nice. Can you tell us how much shorter is the new lever?
And what is the difference in the feeling? Work it better?
Many thanks!
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Thanks a lot! I am also very happy with the result. ;D
Its a bit difficult to measure now that it is installed, but as far as I can see, the short lever is about 5-6 cm lower than the stock one.
As I write above, it gives a much shorter shift movement, and also the gearbox feels much tighter, than with the long standard lever. In short words, it feels like a sports car now with this shorter gear lever. ;)
Cheers,
Christian