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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: George Des on April 18, 2005, 21:46:07
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Anyone have a copy of Gernold's hardtop restoration article that can be posted or e-mailed?
Thnaks--George Des
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Hey George,
I have a copy in PDF, it is 1.4 MB in size.
Happy to email it to you.
Bob Smith (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
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Would you mind sending it to me too?
kgear1@msn.com
THANKS!
Ken G
1971 280 SL
Silver/red
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Is there any reason that this article can't/shouldn't be added to our Technical Articles section?
-David Pease
'66 French 230SL
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I too would love to be copied on the article. The white perforated leather is discoloring around the edges of the top and turning yellow; I imagine it is just the glue showing its age. Is there an easy way to bring it back to white, or since the top is 36+years old, is it time to renew it all?
Dave
69 280 SL
Peri
69 triple green pagoda
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Dave,
Don't remove your old headliner if it's not torn. You can re-dye it quite nicely.
Go to leatherique.com and ask them for advice about their water-based dyes. Tell them about your project and they'll know the right shade of white. (There are other suppliers for good dye too, of course. It's not hard to come by out there.)
Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220
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Thanks for the tip.
quote:
Originally posted by Douglas
Dave,
Don't remove your old headliner if it's not torn. You can re-dye it quite nicely.
Go to leatherique.com and ask them for advice about their water-based dyes. Tell them about your project and they'll know the right shade of white. (There are other suppliers for good dye too, of course. It's not hard to come by out there.)
Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220
Peri
69 triple green pagoda
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quote:
Originally posted by DavidAPease
Is there any reason that this article can't/shouldn't be added to our Technical Articles section?
I would assume that we would at least need his written permission to post his article in a public place. It might even be copyrighted?
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Could you guys be so good and send me a copy of that article to my email? I am about to paint my hardtop too and I do now wish to go around the chrome trim but rather remove it and do the job properly. Thanks. My email is muf@mail.cz
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Could you please email me a copy too?
Thank you,
Aashish
1967 250SL 5-Speed
New York, NY
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Wow. Timing is everything. I am in the process of repainting my top (and new headliner too) Could somebody please send me a copy too.
Thanks
michaeldenise@adelphia.net
Michael
1970 280sl
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I'm gonna look at leatherique.com, but someone please send me a copy of that article too, I'd loved ot see it before tackling this!
ccdmd@mac.com (or) ccdmd@alum.mit.edu
Thanks,
-CD-
1967 230SL, 113.042 10
1983 300TDT, WDBAB 93A7DN
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Anybody have a copy of his article. My car and hard top should be ready in the next several weeks and I had to remove the headliner to remove the top chrome (It needed to be replaced anyway).
I've removed all chrome and the headliner and want to get it all back together, thanks.
Dana DuBois
1969 280sl
Corinth, TX
(http://www.sl113.org/forums/uploaded/dldubois/20067812539_mbz11.jpg)
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Everyone,
just email Gernold through his web site [http://www.sltechw113.com/]
and more than likely he'll mail you a copy. At least that's how I obtained my copy.
Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
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hi guys, i wouldnt mind a copy either as Im just about to embark on a paint job...maybe I can save some labour charges!!!!
Tony Gray
1967 250SL
1972 350SL
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my email address btw is slagburger@hotmail.com.....oooops!
Tony Gray
1967 250SL
1972 350SL
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I think we need Gernolds consent and add this article to the next Pagoda World.
Bob Geco
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Here's what someone has to do to reprint the article:
Michael:
Reprinting the article will require a couple of simple things:
1) that you obtain the permission of Gernold Nisius and the photographer or artist (we had only one-time rights).
2) that you send us a copy of the current issue of Pagoda World now plus a copy of the issue with the reprinted article,
3) that with the article, the magazine should print the following credit prominently:
"This article is reprinted with permission from The Star, the national magazine of the Mercedes-Benz Club of America. To join MBCA, see www.mbca.org or call 800/637-2360."
Frank Barrett, Editor/Publisher
The Star
1235 Pierce St., Lakewood, CO 80214-1936 USA
303/235-0116, fax 303/237-6080
Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored
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quote:
Originally posted by mdsalemi
Here's what someone has to do to reprint the article:
Michael:
Reprinting the article will require a couple of simple things:
1) that you obtain the permission of Gernold Nisius and the photographer or artist (we had only one-time rights).
2) that you send us a copy of the current issue of Pagoda World now plus a copy of the issue with the reprinted article,
3) that with the article, the magazine should print the following credit prominently:
"This article is reprinted with permission from The Star, the national magazine of the Mercedes-Benz Club of America. To join MBCA, see www.mbca.org or call 800/637-2360."
Frank Barrett, Editor/Publisher
The Star
1235 Pierce St., Lakewood, CO 80214-1936 USA
303/235-0116, fax 303/237-6080
Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored
Gernold has revised the article since it appeared in the Star. To my knowledge, the new version is still available only in German. If the new version were translated into English, would permission of the Star still be required, as it would no longer be strictly a reprint? (I don't want to offend anyone or muddy the waters, but do think the point is worth raising).
Chris Earnest
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I like the membership plug they require in the disclosure.
Ken G
1971 280 SL
Silver/red
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If the article was revised, it isn't the same. The Star had a one-time permission, and thus if it isn't the same thing being reproduced, then it isn't from The Star, and Pagoda World can go right to Gernold.
The membership is a good plug. Some magazines and clubs would not give permission at all without payment of some serious coin...
Michael Salemi
1969 280SL
Signal Red w/Black Leather
Restored
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Once Pagoda World 8 is done this month, I will send a copy of PW7 and PW8 to Gernold and ask him if he would be willing to translate the latest German article to English and allow us to print it.
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both tops
1994 E420
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Is it possible to post the revised German article? Some of our members understand the language and I think Achim speaks and writes the German and English language fluently
Paul Haems
'68 280SL
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Originally posted by rwmastel
Once Pagoda World 8 is done this month, I will send a copy of PW7 and PW8 to Gernold and ask him if he would be willing to translate the latest German article to English and allow us to print it.
Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
Hey Rodd, that would be great. We'll eagerly await the result. I'd be surprised if Gernold doesn't allow us to do that. Thanks, -JP-