Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: CJHenderson on October 02, 2020, 13:58:24

Title: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 02, 2020, 13:58:24
Is there suppose to be a tiny ball bearing on the end of the chain tensioner, and if so where can I get one since one didn't come out on tear down?
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: Pawel66 on October 02, 2020, 14:59:18
I know about the ball, but not ball bearing...
Ball: N 005401 305000, available at MB dealers.

175 on the picture.

There are also a couple of bushings.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 02, 2020, 22:04:13
Thank you so much I'll order it today. Again Thanks
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 03, 2020, 13:55:50
Unfortunately that part number has been reassigned to a part in a transmission, but the MB parts Dept. found the right P/N and it is in stock for $360 plus tax and shipping. I just went online to Amazon and found a box of assorted steel balls for $16 which by looks of it the right size is in that box.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: kampala on October 03, 2020, 15:09:53
Something seems wrong.  Yes Mercedes can be expensive at times but this does not make sense.  I see the part available for less than $2  from any Mercedes dealer.

https://www.mbdirectparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-engine-timing-chain-tensioner-005401305000


Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: Pawel66 on October 03, 2020, 15:16:59
Something seems wrong.  Yes Mercedes can be expensive at times but this does not make sense.  I see the part available for less than $2  from any Mercedes dealer.

https://www.mbdirectparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-engine-timing-chain-tensioner-005401305000

That is exactly what I saw. Something went wrong. Push on the dealer, they are not great in these old cars. The green dot in the picture means the part is available within 24h. Costs about $1 with VAT.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: ja17 on October 03, 2020, 16:09:48
Otherwise, if you can measure the correct ball size, you can buy 100 for less than $8.00 US ($ 0.07 each)!

https://www.mcmaster.com/steel-balls
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 03, 2020, 16:15:47
Thanks, but I don't have the ball. When I removed the tensioner it wasn't there. Hoping that I can get a close match since it will be going inside the slide I figure that it will not be a big deal.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: Pawel66 on October 03, 2020, 17:26:21
The dealers messed something up. You can also call Tom in Classic Center - he helped even me, form Europe.

You dropped the ball down the chain galley? uups...

I would buy and measure it for you, but I could pick it up next Friday....
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: ja17 on October 03, 2020, 23:52:17
The ball is 5mm diameter sold in quantities of 100 for less than $10 US plus shipping, from McMaster/Carr If you like. (part #9292K39 )

https://www.mcmaster.com/steel-balls/

Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: MikeSimon on October 04, 2020, 12:43:03
Joe has the way to go. I dropped the ball from the tensioner on the garage floor and before I finally found it again, I went to McMaster Carr , 20 miles from my house and bought a bag of 100.
I am willing to part with a few that I do not need ;D if you are still in a pickle.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: ja17 on October 04, 2020, 14:33:54
Make sure the ball is not still inside the housing. It sits in a pocket of the plastic end piece which may be still lodged inside the tensioner housing.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 05, 2020, 14:12:28
Got it! found in my ultrasonic cleaner. I was fishing parts out with a magnet and noticed this small ball next to the tensioner spring and other metal parts. Thanks to all for their inputs and advice.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: Pawel66 on October 05, 2020, 17:09:06
You moved lots of people on both sides of the ocean just to say now you found it in the cleaner??

 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 05, 2020, 23:13:55
Sorry about all of the fuss. Never saw the ball when I removed the tensioner unit and figured that it was never there when I started to reinstall it.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: ja17 on October 06, 2020, 06:19:47
Well the good news is that you found it and we know Mike has a lifetime supply of those for the whole pagoda group!
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: Pawel66 on October 06, 2020, 09:01:13
Sorry about all of the fuss. Never saw the ball when I removed the tensioner unit and figured that it was never there when I started to reinstall it.

Just kidding!  ;) ;)

Now everybody in the future will know the size, PN and the sources of supply.
Title: Re: Chain tensioner ball bearing
Post by: CJHenderson on October 06, 2020, 13:51:33
 :) :) 8)