Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: CJHenderson on September 23, 2020, 00:44:49

Title: Upper sump case.
Post by: CJHenderson on September 23, 2020, 00:44:49

I had quite the surprise today, I pulled the upper sump case and the case pretty much fell into my hands without any appreciable pressure applied to it. There was no gasket or sealent between the block and case. Another thing was that there were no baffles inside the case. Has anyone else run into this and is it supposed to be that way? When I reassemble the case should I apply make a gasket sealent?

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: wwheeler on September 23, 2020, 02:57:56

Not sure if the factory used any sealant between the block and the upper case. Of course the parts then were brand new and machined perfectly flat. I think what you want is a thin sealant and two come to my mind. Permatex #2 and #3. #3 (also called Aviation) is thinner and is good for metal to metal surfaces. In either case, use a thin coat.

I am not a big RTV silicone fan for this application.

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: CJHenderson on September 23, 2020, 08:46:52

Thanks for the recommendations.

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: MikeSimon on September 23, 2020, 12:17:47

No silicone anywhere where it can make its way into the oil sump.

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: Benz Dr. on September 23, 2020, 15:00:14

I use Permatex Gray RTV for jobs like that. It will harden and not leak. Softer types of silicone can and will squeeze out with plugged oil pump screens a small possibility. 

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: stickandrudderman on September 23, 2020, 16:45:00

I use Wellseal with good results.

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: Benz Dr. on September 23, 2020, 20:52:24

Quote from: stickandrudderman on September 23, 2020, 16:45:00

I use Wellseal with good results.

Weasel? Tried that once. Stunk the place up so bad no one would come to work for a whole week. :)

Title: Re: Upper sump case.
Post by: Shvegel on September 24, 2020, 06:14:14

I use either Yamabond or Toyota FIPG (formed in place gasket).  Both are silicone based but I have never had a problem with it migrating anywhere.  I am careful about how I apply it and after working on countless Asian cars that didn't leak a drop after hundreds of thousands of miles I am sold.