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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Wanted To Buy => Topic started by: Merc_Girl on July 07, 2020, 08:16:14

Title: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: Merc_Girl on July 07, 2020, 08:16:14
Hi folks
I have discovered that my 230sl has two different designs of window winder/crank, with the passenger side having the latter design.

Does anyone happen to have any early version please

Thank you

Katie
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 15:01:13

I have discovered that my 230sl has two different designs of window winder/crank, with the passenger side having the latter design.

Does anyone happen to have any early version please

There are three versions of window cranks:
1.  Early small knob, held in by a screw
2.  Middle, big knob, held in by screw
3.  Late, big knob, held in by a clip that is part of the crank insert pad (the upholstered colored thing)

You have a 230 SL so you should have the small knob version, the first one.  Are you saying that your window cranks don't both look like #1?    Pics attached.
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 15:02:09
I think what can happen is at some point your window regulator gets replaced and it gets replaced with the later style (that doesn't have a screw to hold in the crank, so your crank gets replaced with the later style also.  Is this what has happened with your car?
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 16:11:34
Oh, and for what it's worth I have all types of window cranks...
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: 66andBlue on July 07, 2020, 17:20:52
There are three versions of window cranks:
1.  Early small knob, held in by a screw
2.  Middle, big knob, held in by screw
3.  Late, big knob, held in by a clip that is part of the crank insert pad (the upholstered colored thing)
...
Hello Scott,
great info; please add it to our technical manual. https://www.sl113.org/wiki/ChassisBody/Windows
Thanks.
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: Benz Dr. on July 07, 2020, 17:40:34
Yup. That Scot guy sure has a good handle on things.
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: wjsvb ✝︎ on July 07, 2020, 18:04:24
Amen to that!  He's good on Becker radios too! The window handle guide should be in the Tech Manual!
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 18:21:09
Amen to that!  He's good on Becker radios too! The window handle guide should be in the Tech Manual!
OK, I'll put the window handle guide into the tech manual, along with samples of which types of crank insert fit for each one...   :-)   Scott
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: Merc_Girl on July 07, 2020, 19:15:12
Hi chaps

Thanks for your replies.

So, the drivers door has the first style, which is the correct one, with a small knob.

The passenger has a different design, which is incorrect and the one I need to replace, if I can

Pictures attached

Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: Merc_Girl on July 07, 2020, 19:29:17
Once I’ve replaced the incorrect one I will have a #2 style window winder/crank handle available if someone needs one 😂

Also, I know I may be being a bit odd, but it seems ver ‘unGerman’, but the windows operate in different ways:

- drivers side the winder is turned clockwise to lower the window
- passenger side, if the winder is turned clockwise it raises the window!!!

Is this normal???
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 19:34:05
So, the drivers door has the first style, which is the correct one, with a small knob.

The passenger has a different design, which is incorrect and the one I need to replace, if I can

I need a picture of the passenger side, without the crank insert installed.  Then I can tell you the answer.
:-)
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: Merc_Girl on July 07, 2020, 20:34:18
So, this is the wrong design for the year, although it does appear to have a small knob?
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 21:29:47
So, this is the wrong design for the year, although it does appear to have a small knob?
No, that is perfectly correct.  You said the passenger side doesn't match.  Attach pic of the passenger side that doesn't match.
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: ja17 on July 07, 2020, 22:51:56
Most Mercedes sedans of the era W110, W111, early W108 with manual windows also used the early style window crank.
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: scoot on July 07, 2020, 22:59:35
Most Mercedes sedans of the era W110, W111, early W108 with manual windows also used the early style window crank.
...which is why I have a nice box of them...  I used to do a lot of junkyarding...
Title: Re: Wanted: early window winder/crank for 230sl
Post by: Merc_Girl on July 09, 2020, 21:49:58
With thanks to all my fine SL113 friends for all your helpful pointers.
Now sourced the item needed from one of our group members

Take care

Katie