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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Electrical and Instruments => Topic started by: Winmerc on February 15, 2020, 15:19:54

Title: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Winmerc on February 15, 2020, 15:19:54
I am in the process of refurbishing the dashboard on my 1969 280SL, learning quite a bit about the car, I have read a number of items about the removal of the switch & thought I had done the difficult bit but still cannot get the knob off!

I made a tool to loosen the bezel nut, removed the wiring from the back of the switch & am confident that the bezel nut is now free of the thread on the switch but the knob will not come off.

I have pulled as hard as I am able, put a screwdriver behind & gently tried to lever but am not making any progress. Wondering about trying to make something to use in conjunction with a 2 or 3 legged puller.

Really appreciated any advice.

Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Cees Klumper on February 15, 2020, 15:42:13
Hmm. I am fairly sure that when I had occasion last summer to remove this switch, after removing the nut it came free easily, so not sure what to advise. Is it possible a PO somehow glued it in? (Although why would she have). Other will chime in soon I'm sure.
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: WRe on February 15, 2020, 17:28:01
Hi,
there is nothing behind, the switch is only fixed with the central screw/nut, see picture.
..WRe
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Winmerc on February 15, 2020, 19:07:18
Many thanks for advice, the photo of the switch is very clear, I did try warming the knob in case it had been glues on, I had not realised it had a rubber external layer & soon became very soft! I stopped the heat gun just in time!

Looks like it will have to be brute force & a new knob.

Many thanks, that has saved a lot of time & frustration.

Rgds,

David
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Garry on February 15, 2020, 20:27:00
The photo shows a flat sided shaft.  You sure the knob does not have a tiny locking screw in it that holds it to the shaft? 

Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Paul & Dolly on February 16, 2020, 08:29:26

I do not know about the 280SL knob, but on my early 250SL, which has the illuminated version, the knob and locking ring come off "as one"

Paul
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: WRe on February 16, 2020, 08:57:22
Hi,
there had been different switches (with and w/o light/optical fiber) but all with a central screw/nut. Sometimes the nut/thread came off if you handle it too hard.
...WRe
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: scoot on February 16, 2020, 15:36:58
The knob and bezel come off as one.  If the bezel is unscrewed try wiggling them loose from the shaft.  I don't know of a reason that someone would glue this on.
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Winmerc on February 17, 2020, 19:33:25
Many thanks for your advice, it is much appreciated & great to know I can tap into so much experience. I now have the knob off & thought you would be interested t9 know why it had caused so much difficulty.

Earlier in the life of the car the knob had become detached from the bezel. Someone came up with a “fix”.

They managed to remove the face plate from the front of the knob, drilled a hole into the end of the brass spindle & used a washer & small self tapping screw & then replace the face plate. A cleaver but infuriating fix, I would have given them a bit more credit if they had drilled, tapped & used a small bolt, I have an aversion to self tapping screws.
I have ruined the knob getting to this point so now looking for a new knob!
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: scoot on February 17, 2020, 19:35:19
I have ruined the knob getting to this point so now looking for a new knob!
That's (oddly) a very difficult knob to get.  The early style is easier.  GL!
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: WRe on February 17, 2020, 21:02:27
Thank you for your feedback!
...WRe
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: mnahon on February 18, 2020, 01:50:25
Here's some sources:

https://www.authenticclassics.com/Mercedes-Blower-Switch-Knob-110-111-112-113-Ch-p/auth-007575.htm

https://www.sls-hh-shop.de/main/en/mercedes-230-280sl-w113-/83-heater-system/knob-large-heater-blower-switch-reprochrome-nut-p-135073

https://classic-mercedes-parts.com/en/w113-interior/heater-blower-switch-knob-280sl-1108201592.html
Title: Re: Booster / Fan switch removal 280SL
Post by: Winmerc on February 18, 2020, 22:20:29
Thanks for info on potential suppliers of a replacement knob, I am going to Essen towards the end of March & hope to find one there but if not will follow up on one of these.

Many thanks, :)