Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: EeVeeWee on July 19, 2019, 06:20:14

Title: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 19, 2019, 06:20:14
If I want to mount a 82 liter tank in my 230SL from 1965 (with flat spare tyre). I read somewhere that it will fit, but some changes have to be made to the fuel pump position. Can anyone explain which changes are necessary for this larger tank?
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: Paul & Dolly on July 19, 2019, 07:27:51
This picture from the Technical manual, under FUEL TANK may help to see the differences

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Fuel/Tank#Tank


Hope it helps

Paul
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 19, 2019, 08:12:42
This picture from the Technical manual, under FUEL TANK may help to see the differences

https://www.sl113.org/wiki/Fuel/Tank#Tank


Hope it helps

Paul

Thank you Paul, I saw these pictures:

Picture showing the smaller 65 liter tank on a late 230 SL with flat trunk floor.
(https://www.sl113.org/wiki/uploads/Fuel/230FuelTank.jpg)

Picture showing the larger 80 liter tank. Note the slightly different mounting position of the electric fuel pump
(https://www.sl113.org/wiki/uploads/Fuel/250FT.jpg)

But how this is done?
A new bracket for the pump?
Do I need different hoses for this new location, or does every original part fits anyway?
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: 114015 on July 19, 2019, 12:09:36


Eric,

Have a look at the two pictures. This pics tell you more than a 1000 words.
The pump (or at least the pump housing, the cannister) needs to be relocated a bit in order to make space for the larger trunk.

The brackets/mounting points for the fuel tank shoud be compatible, I think.

AFAIK the hoses will also still fit - but no guarantee here.

Pls. see also the parts list.



Achim
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 19, 2019, 15:09:14
Yes so far it's clear that's there are differences between the two pictures.
May be there is someone here with the experience to explain the exact changes I have to made.  :)
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: teahead on July 19, 2019, 17:36:50
Doesn't look to hard to move the pump.

Look how the bracket is  held on to the body and see if it just can be simply moved over, which looks to be about half a foot.
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: mbzse on July 19, 2019, 17:57:31
Quote from: 114015
.../...The [fuel feed] pump (or at least the pump housing, the cannister) needs to be relocated a bit in order to make space for the larger tank.../...
This is achieved by means of the upper mounting bracket. These differ between 230SL and 250/280SL cars.
Attached are images of the 230SL type bracket and the 250/280SL type, which is offset. Some 40mm or so.
The pump covers are quite different as well, not easily interchangeable
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 19, 2019, 18:53:53
This is achieved by means of the upper mounting bracket. These differ between 230SL and 250/280SL cars.
Attached is an image of the 230SL type bracket; the 250/280SL type is offset. Some 40mm or so.
The pump covers are quite different as well, not easily interchangeable

OK thank you!
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: Minerva on July 19, 2019, 19:30:11
I've just fitted a pump to a 230 which had the larger tank already fitted,  albeit a later short pump, i had to move the mounting points slightly further outboard as the bracket wouldn't line up with the factory mounting points.
I can take some pictures tomorrow if it helps,.
Keith.
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 19, 2019, 20:40:24
I've just fitted a pump to a 230 which had the larger tank already fitted,  albeit a later short pump, i had to move the mounting points slightly further outboard as the bracket wouldn't line up with the factory mounting points.
I can take some pictures tomorrow if it helps,.
Keith.

OK that might help me when I will do this job, thanks!
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: Tom in seattle on July 22, 2019, 01:41:28
I think a fist step would be to acquire the round style pump cover and it will guide you to where the mounting holes are needed.  I've converted a short pump mount to the long style which will fit into the round cover as well.  I believe Barron Youngman rebuilds short pumps but the long pump is more available.
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: Benz Dr. on July 22, 2019, 03:32:59
I did that conversion on my 230SL about 20 years ago and it really was not hard to do. Aside from moving the pump over it was pretty straight forward. It gave me a lot more range with a fill up and my car can easily go 750 KM before I would need to stop for fuel. I left the fuel pump canister off on my car.
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 22, 2019, 07:12:02
OK thank you.
There was no pump cover with my car, so after mounting I can still decide if I will mount one.
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: Minerva on July 23, 2019, 20:07:01
Here's two pictures of the larger tank in a 230sl, battery was low in.my phone so maybe a bit dark as flash wouldnt work, blue pipe is temporary by the way...
Title: Re: 230SL with 82 liter tank
Post by: EeVeeWee on July 25, 2019, 20:04:19
Thanks!