Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Items for Sale => Topic started by: Joe on February 28, 2019, 16:08:14

Title: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Joe on February 28, 2019, 16:08:14
Go to proxibid.com and search for it.
It is not my car, nor do I know the owner or anything about the car other than what is in the ad.
Joe
Colorado Springs
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Chris_ATL on February 28, 2019, 16:39:23
There's also one wit ha reasonable guide price at Bonhams Amelia island

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25219/lot/208/

Except whem you read this.... " Today this lovely 230SL presents in largely original and unrestored condition, retaining much of its original interior and brightwork, and probably treated to just one light respray years ago. "
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: KevinC on February 28, 2019, 20:52:49
I always wondered ... does a "light-respray" mean they just hold the paint-gun farther back? Or possibly "we didn't take the time and expense to remove the chrome and bring to the body to bare metal, we just masked everything off and painted over what was there"? 
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Benz Dr. on February 28, 2019, 23:47:06
I think it means that it doesn't have 20 coats of paint on it but that doesn't mean that its one paint job was done right. Kind like a hundred other nebulous deceptions for old cars that really don't mean anything.
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Jordan on March 01, 2019, 02:26:36
There's also one wit ha reasonable guide price at Bonhams Amelia island

https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25219/lot/208/

Except whem you read this.... " Today this lovely 230SL presents in largely original and unrestored condition, retaining much of its original interior and brightwork, and probably treated to just one light respray years ago. "

So they can take 24 pictures of the interior of the car but only 3 of the engine bay (at a distance, must be "lightly photographed") and none of the underside. 
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: johnk on March 01, 2019, 03:43:22
notice the rear view mirror mounted on the fender?
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Chris_ATL on March 01, 2019, 13:12:27
The more i look at that car the more i shudder...
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Mike Hughes on March 01, 2019, 15:30:51
notice the rear view mirror mounted on the fender?

This is a period "Green Dot" Talbot mirror from Germany.  In recent weeks we have been treated to period photos of 230SLs delivered with no exterior mirrors.  Talbots were a very fashionable European sports car accessory in the '60s and early '70s and were often dealer installed. 
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Vander on March 01, 2019, 19:22:31
It is not a nice car, what appears to be cadmium plating on the engine is all poorly spray painted. The valve cover and intake are also poorly spray painted silver.
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: Mike Hughes on March 01, 2019, 21:15:49
So they can take 24 pictures of the interior of the car but only 3 of the engine bay (at a distance, must be "lightly photographed") and none of the underside. 

I agree that there are way too many versions of basically the same shot, and a limited variety of detail shots.  That said, the photos presented must be very high resolution images, because the zoom function on the Bonham's site reveals excellent sharp close-in detail. 

All in all, the car is honestly presented, warts and all.  If I was being picky, there must have been water leaking into the trunk at some point and I might investigate the somewhat amateur looking silicone sealant around one of the tail lights.  I'd like to know where the unfused fairly heavy gauge wire that is secured crudely under the positive terminal clamp bolt is running and what it is powering.  The interior has nice patina and exhibits a pair of reasonably well preserved original tan rubber foot well liners.  At some point broken red/blue gray early style heater levers were replaced with later black levers.  The glove box door appears to have been incorrectly fitted upon reassembly of the dash - or it has been distorted by some sort of impact.  My biggest concern with the car as presented is what appears to be a twisted driver's seat back frame.  The original leather upholstery has settled into that seat back's current distortion over the decades and may not take kindly to correction.  The tear in the driver's seat bottom may respond to sympathetic repair by an expert. 
Title: Re: Nice red 230SL 4-speed on Auction tomorrow (March1) in North Carolina
Post by: lowpad on March 02, 2019, 20:31:43
I wonder what Paul Bracq thinks of the chrome fender trim, ugh.  Car looks pretty tired to me, but I covet those original rubber floor mats .....