Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: Iconic on October 11, 2016, 23:10:34

Title: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Iconic on October 11, 2016, 23:10:34

I've heard references to square section exhaust tip ends.
Does this mean the "bead" at the end of the chrome tip has a square cross section?
Mine have a round cross section.

Did Pagodas have a square cross section?
All Pagodas?
Maybe just the early ones???

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: mdsalemi on October 12, 2016, 00:11:44

I'm told that the original (as delivered) OEM models had the square bead at the end of the chrome. The replacements, whether OEM from Mercedes-Benz or reproduction, have a rounded bead. I don't know if all (230-280 throughout production) were originally delivered with square...maybe others can help out.

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Iconic on October 12, 2016, 00:19:09

Thanks Michael.
That helps for part of the question.
As you said, maybe others can help out.

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: 49er on October 12, 2016, 04:52:00

Originals were square. I have the rounded bead on mine now

John

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: ja17 on October 12, 2016, 06:00:26

Yes, I believe the square were original.

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Iconic on October 12, 2016, 13:04:36

Well, Michael, John, and Joe, I'd have to say that question is now answered !!!
Thanks guys, and have a great fall.
I will take that as 100% fact, and I've learned something new.
I have never seen one of those and I hope to some day.
If anyone has a picture of the square cross section original tail pipe chrome tips, it would be great if you could post it !!
Thanks,
Mark

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Jonny B on October 12, 2016, 13:29:06

I think the replacements changed to the round beads a long time ago. I scored a set of four from Australia with the squared edged a couple of years ago. I also got one from Argentina in the original package. I have been on the lookout since then through ebay and have seen nothing.

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: mdsalemi on October 12, 2016, 13:57:58

Quote from: Jonny B on October 12, 2016, 13:29:06

...I scored a set of four from Australia...I also got one from Argentina...I have been on the lookout since then...have seen nothing...

Perhaps because, in the same way Scoot scooped up all the aluminum wheels you've done the same for square-bead exhaust tips!  ;D

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: G$ 993 on March 27, 2018, 02:13:41

Bumping this to the top.  Would love to see comparison pics of the two.  Does anyone have this? 

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Jonny B on March 27, 2018, 16:07:01

Here ya go.

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Iconic on March 27, 2018, 16:47:16

I'm so glad this discussion got started up again and THANK YOU to Jonny B for the picture !!!
I wish that part was still available today.
To my eyes, it is a thing of beauty and so cool !!   8)
Now, I'll ask again as I did at the beginning of this string:
"Was the square cross section exhaust tip original equipment on all of the production Pagodas from '63 to '71??

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: BaronYoungman on March 27, 2018, 16:53:57

Wow, Mark R. was talking about that at PUB last year and I have seen many of what I thought were original Pagodas and never seen a exhaust lip tip like that so I was sure it was non- stock. Mark you were correct and a Jedi of Pagoda nuances and now wish I had a set , so much nicer that my rounded tips.  One more thing on my list of what I am searching for.
Bob

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Jonny B on March 27, 2018, 17:04:26

To answer Mark's question more specifically.

It is my understanding that the square edged tips were on all the 113 cars (and I believe on the other MB cars of the same period). I happened on a used square tip a year or better ago, but it was slightly larger than the Pagoda tip. I gave that to my good friend Bob Gunthorp, as I figured he might find a better home for it

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Iconic on March 27, 2018, 17:43:00

Thanks again Jonny !!

Bob,
The good news is that if you find a set before me, you will probably give them to me cause you are such a nice guy !!  ;D
Mark

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: hauser on March 28, 2018, 02:59:26

Can these be replicated?  I would be interested!

Title: Re: Chrome exhaust tip ends, square vs. round
Post by: Shvegel on March 28, 2018, 03:31:20

It seems like you could roll them between two bearings one inside and one outside.  that would cause the front and rear face to square up.  It wouldn't bee too hard to make a tool.