Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: bogeyman on August 03, 2016, 19:16:48

Title: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: bogeyman on August 03, 2016, 19:16:48

I know this is sacrilege, but as sacrileges go this one is pretty cool.
I'd love to drive it...

http://www.hatchandsons.com/pages/sales/JB182/

Title: Re: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: Peter van Es on August 03, 2016, 22:21:28

Looks like a Mechatronics conversion... not sacrilege, really. Can be converted back to original with the rebuilt engine. If only I hadn't just bought a new house...

Title: Re: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: RobSirg on August 04, 2016, 07:01:17

That engine looks beautiful.....but it would look nicer when it is back in the car. :)

I guess if you have the funds and the will and intend to restore it back to original - I'm Ok with that.

My Alfa has some engine upgrades and I have full intention of taking it back to original......if only it didn't drive so darn well.....

Rob

Title: Re: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: GGR on August 04, 2016, 10:35:08

Looks to be very nicely executed. I love the color combo! The hood however does not seem to open fully.

Title: Re: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: stickandrudderman on August 05, 2016, 14:31:07

I've often pondered as to what engine I would use if I were to do this.
I love the idea of a V8, but the straight sixes of the 80s/early 90s are also very attractive propositions.
The m103 is fantastic engine and has the attraction of being supremely reliable and also very simple.
The next evolution, the 104.980 (300 24V) engine was also a fantastic and very powerful engine which I think would be a superb choice and then there's the 104.992 (320 as fitted to this car) which has a longer stroke and so is more torquey but not as "willing".
I think I would probably do something sacreligious though and drill holes through the bonnet and install quick release pins.
In the next life perhaps.....

Title: Re: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: BRYANH815 on August 05, 2016, 17:40:39

I viewed this car. it is great. reminds me of a high class Sunbeam,,,engine fits very good.

Title: Re: Pagoda resto-mod??
Post by: GGR on August 18, 2016, 04:05:23

Quote from: stickandrudderman on August 05, 2016, 14:31:07

I've often pondered as to what engine I would use if I were to do this.
I love the idea of a V8, but the straight sixes of the 80s/early 90s are also very attractive propositions.
The m103 is fantastic engine and has the attraction of being supremely reliable and also very simple.
The next evolution, the 104.980 (300 24V) engine was also a fantastic and very powerful engine which I think would be a superb choice and then there's the 104.992 (320 as fitted to this car) which has a longer stroke and so is more torquey but not as "willing".
I think I would probably do something sacreligious though and drill holes through the bonnet and install quick release pins.
In the next life perhaps.....

There are two considerations. The first one is that if one is after performance while retaining good drivability on a road car, then the V8 option is more advantageous as it offers a bigger displacement potential.

The second is car balance. Thanks to a more rigid architecture, V8s allow for alloy blocks resulting in a similar overall weight compared to an L6. But V8s' center of gravity is lower, as the heaviest part is the crankshaft. Being shorter than L6s, V8 also sit more backwards in the car, resulting in an overall better weight distribution which is important on a Pagoda given its short wheel base.   

L6s however offer a different character. So personal taste may enter the equation.