Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => W11x chassis cars => Topic started by: Madmerc on March 07, 2016, 05:59:23

Title: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: Madmerc on March 07, 2016, 05:59:23

hi all im just trying to get my head around these w111 coupe and sedans and my question is the front bonnet hood fenders bumper bars  lights  grille  windscreens  the same or are they different thanks

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: ja17 on March 07, 2016, 13:56:58

The W111 coupe fenders are not the same as sedan fenders. They are the same as W111 cabriolet fenders. Also be aware that there is the later  "low grille" coupe and cab fenders which are different from the earlier ones.

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: Benz Dr. on March 07, 2016, 16:09:03

You wouldn't even want to guess how much those low grill 3.5 coupe fenders are right now.

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: wwheeler on March 07, 2016, 20:47:20

Back then, Mercedes had a way of designing the bodies so that there was a very strong resemblance between models. In fact so similar, that it got them into trouble because the owners of the higher end cars wanted greater separation. So extra chrome and better quality interiors were added to the more expensive models. This is also true of the Ponton sedans and coupes.

The other thing I discovered is that just because it resembles each other, doesn't mean that they are the same part. In fact, usually not the same. You have to be careful. The EPC is useful mostly in that you can find the part number for each model and see if they match. Mercedes does substitute a lot, so not always reliable. 

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: JPMOSE on March 16, 2016, 13:53:02

MadMerc....here's a fun site to look at:

http://www.heckflosse.nl/

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: ejboyd5 on March 17, 2016, 16:13:16

Here's a nose to nose picture of my 1964 220 SEb Coupe (right) and my 1965 220 S (left) at a time I had both - only the 220 SEb survives today.
(http://i65.tinypic.com/54doi9.jpg)

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: JPMOSE on March 18, 2016, 13:22:05

What happened to the 1965 220S??

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: ejboyd5 on March 18, 2016, 22:56:31

Quote from: JPMOSE on March 18, 2016, 13:22:05

What happened to the 1965 220S??

Replaced by a 1972 280 SE 4.5 (58K miles) that is still in my garage:
(http://i64.tinypic.com/dwq5br.jpg)

Title: Re: 220seb coupe and the 4 door
Post by: Marrs on March 19, 2016, 02:31:34

You can really see how the grille cants back on the coupe as compared to the sedan in that pic, I've heard that for years but could never really notice in person.