Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: Larry & Norma on September 06, 2015, 06:29:56
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I went to the Beaulieu autojumble yesterday. There was a LHD Silver 230SL for sale. It was fitted with a 300SL (gullwing) engine.
The car was tatty and probably lots of rust, asking price £34500.
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Hmmm
There's talk of Porsche 2.2 and 2.4 "S" engines going for £20-£25k (pre-rebuild!)
I have to imagine a gullwing engine - esp with ancillaries (wonder what gearbox it's mated to) would be at least that.
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If the engine was any good, and genuine, I suspect it is worth two or three times and maybe more that the price of the car. 300SL's appear to be starting at $1.5mill nowadays unrestored and ratty.
Garry
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You have to make sure it is a Gullwing engine. They have an iron block and the engine sits at an angle. There are many other 300 engines out there, carbed, injection, aluminum engine etc. and apart from the 300SL they sit upright. They are much much less valuable.
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Some years ago I was told by Van Dijk that a new crankshaft alone cost €17,000 from MB. That will have only gone up.
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I think a lot of the value depends on the condition of the engine. And the authenticity of it. It seems like people in the 300SL community would be all over that car.
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GGR I think you may be correct, although they told me it was from the gullwing it was not canted
over so perhaps not genuine. Even so the injection system looked very similar but the inlet manifold
maybe too small. Should of took some pictures!
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It could be a 300SE engine but they're all aluminium and considerably longer so it would be a very difficult fit.
Now it if were a 300Sc engine, which is equivalent to a 300SL only upright, you would really have something! ;D
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I don't think the intake from the SL or the Sc would fit under the hood as the SL has very long runners and the Sc flipped up and over the valve cover.
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M198s are also combined dry and wet sump. The effort of fitting one to a W113 I would imagine would be pretty immense, potentially impossible given space restrictions. Even an M189 3.0L motor is a good bit bigger than an M127/29/30.
Any pictures of the car? A real M198 motor is entirely unmistakable. The manifolds and the cant of the engine are like nothing else Mercedes made.
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The guy who just sol me my pagoda in Germany has bought a 300sl that he is having restored by the same guy who did my pagoda (dortmuller). According to them, a brand new 300sl engine is 250k euros.