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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: jeffc280sl on September 03, 2004, 16:32:58

Title: Glove box door hinge
Post by: jeffc280sl on September 03, 2004, 16:32:58: Does the hinge go above the box or beneath?

Thanks

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Douglas on September 03, 2004, 16:57:37: Not sure what you mean, but here's a photo:

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Douglas Kim
New York, NY
280 SL #016220
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: jeffc280sl on September 03, 2004, 17:30:11: Does the hinge mount right under the bottom flat piece that is secured by screws or is it mounted under the metal glove box?

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on September 03, 2004, 17:44:01: Under the metal glove box.
Then a pad covers the screws.
naj

65 230SL
68 280SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: jeffc280sl on September 03, 2004, 17:55:39: Thanks Naj.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: hauser on September 03, 2004, 20:41:54: Don't forget the spring or you'll have to to lock it just to keep it closed.

1969 280sl 5 spd 1999 ML320 Gainesville,Fl.
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on September 04, 2004, 06:40:51: Sorry Jeff,
Wrong info. :evil:

Hinge goes ABOVE glove box base. On RHD cars, the right end of the hinge has a raised section that the flex wire for the lamp in the door passes under!!
The hinge/box are held on the dash by 4 screws but there are 6 holes. The two smaller holes take rivets which hold the glove box and door together so that the spring/holders can be installed prior to fitting the assembly into the dash board.
Sorry, no picture at present.

naj

65 230SL
68 280SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: jeffc280sl on September 04, 2004, 07:38:16: Thanks Naj.

I'll install it correctly today.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: ChrisInNashville on September 26, 2004, 06:13:03: Quick question on an issue related to the spring. I found my hinge last night loose behind the dash but can't figure out how to reattach. It consists of the spring with the two "wrench like" inserts that fit the mechanism well, but they don't stay attached. Am I missing something else?

I appreciate any help or ideas.

I'm a new 'poster' here with a newly acquired '69 280SL

Chris Tietz
Newburgh, Indiana.
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: jeffc280sl on September 26, 2004, 08:24:38: Welcome Chris,

The wrenches need to be inserted side by side in each end of the spring. There is a slotted protrusion on the side of the glove box and another on the glove box door. The wrench ends are inserted into the slots and the spring remains straight. The spring does not bend in the middle. Spring tension with the wrenches pushed outward by the spring keep the glove box door open and closed.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Jonny B on September 26, 2004, 20:30:00: Be sure that the spring is in good condition. It should not be bent or extended. When I first pulled my glove box apart, I saw that the spring was mis-shaped and did not lie flat. It is critical that the spring be not deformed, twisted or bent. I found a replacement at the local auto parts store. It works like a charm.

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: n/a on September 28, 2004, 13:53:57: Take the two "wrench" handles and put each of them into the holes/circles formed at either end of the spring so that the handles are inside the spring pointed towards one another like so.... ]-/////-[

Now squeeze them together by pushing on the wrench heads, compressing the spring until the handles overlap inside the body of the spring. Now with the glovebox closed, insert the wrench ends ] into the slots in the hinge arms. The wrench handles should stay overlapped and the spring should stay compressed with the glovebox closed. Done correctly, there should be enough tension on the gloveboxe hinge to make it difficult to open when the glovebox is not attached to the car. If you are bending the spring or the wrench handles do not overlap you are doing something wrong.

Mikey
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: TA250SL on September 28, 2004, 20:52:46: You can view a photo of the spring assembly and glove box door at the SL-Tech website, www.SLTech113.com. Look under parts inventory.

Tom
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: A Dalton on September 28, 2004, 21:05:31: www.sltechw113.com
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: hands_aus on September 29, 2004, 05:16:13: Here a couple of pics to look at

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Bob (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: ChrisInNashville on October 10, 2004, 19:37:08: Thanks. Ya'll are awesome! I've been down due to computer problems, but now that I'm back, you've helped immensely!

In this process, I've noted that there are no screws holding the glove box in place. Does anyone know what size/type screws to use? I'm also going to have to find screw holes since apparently they were covered in the recent reupholstery project.

Any ideas/thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris Tietz
Newburgh, Indiana, USA
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: ChrisInNashville on October 10, 2004, 19:40:27: Thanks. Ya'll are awesome! I've been down due to computer problems, but now that I'm back, you've helped immensely!

In this process, I've noted that there are no screws holding the glove box in place. Does anyone know what size/type screws to use? I'm also going to have to find screw holes since apparently they were covered in the recent reupholstery project.

Any ideas/thoughts are greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Chris Tietz
Newburgh, Indiana, USA
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: ChrisInNashville on October 12, 2004, 20:06:57: quote:
Originally posted by Lax882@aol.com

Does the hinge go above the box or beneath?

Thanks

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed

My hinge is on the bottom. The screws - I think - belong on the top.Any ideas?
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Cees Klumper on October 12, 2004, 20:53:25: My glove box is held in place by two screws on the top and four on the bottom. They are chromed and sit in thin (what looks like) aluminum cups through the MB-tex material.

Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: J. Huber on February 13, 2007, 14:32:25: Hello. I am resurrecting this one because I have questions about various dash screws.

Are the below-mentioned cups used in the upper screws of the glovebox as well? And what about the two black plugs in Douglas's picture? Are these correct? and available? anybody have a handful of cup washers???

quote:
Originally posted by cees klumper

My glove box is held in place by two screws on the top and four on the bottom. They are chromed and sit in thin (what looks like) aluminum cups through the MB-tex material.

Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Roman Kishi on February 13, 2007, 21:39:37: Actually, I looked for these cup washers before. Are they available anywhere?

Roman
Northern Virginia
280 1969,Signal Red, Auto
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: George Davis on February 14, 2007, 10:39:24: I think the cup washers are called finish washers. Available at good hardware stores that have a decent selection of fasteners (screws, nuts, bolts, etc.).

George Davis
'69 280 SL Euro manual
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: J. Huber on February 14, 2007, 12:19:49: Thanks George. I did try a few of our local places and even bought some of the "finish washers". But the only ones they had are more rounded and the screw sits up high. The Pagoda washer seems to be more recessed, letting screw be almost flush with the vinyl. But I will keep looking...

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: George Davis on February 14, 2007, 13:35:13: Good hardware stores are hard to find, actually. Try your local aircraft maintenance supply store, or maybe these guys:

http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_search_results.php/search=bmFzMzkw

George Davis
'69 280 SL Euro manual
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: J. Huber on February 14, 2007, 14:26:55: Thanks GD. I'll have a look around. I guess I am just searching for some simple, fairly easy improvements to do this winter -- and my screws throughout the car are fairly mish-mashy. It would be nice to have a database here of just screws...part numbers & pictures or some such thing.

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: 66andBlue on February 14, 2007, 15:25:57: James,
also take look at the "screw" topic #4866 that you started awhile ago.

Alfred
1966 blue 230SL automatic
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: J. Huber on February 14, 2007, 18:10:34: Thanks Alfred! Shows you the state of my memory... :oops: I know the mismatched screws have bugged me for a longtime -- its just that it comes to the frontburner whenever I have to pull things apart (like last weekend's adventure).

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: mbz.280sl on February 15, 2007, 10:40:38: This is great, I was also trying to find those cup or finish washers. Thanks.
I was wondering about the two black plugs that was asked about in James note, referring to a picture of Douglas's glove box. Are these available?
Are they just intended to be small bumpers for the closing of the glove box?

Otto
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Jonny B on February 15, 2007, 11:30:20: Those little plugs should be available at any number of auto parts stores or even flea markets. I replaced mine, and I think I started with the Benz replacement part and it was not the right fit. So I went to Autozone or some such and just looked through the rack until I found something that was about right. The trick is to not get something too thick, as that adds to the already finicky process of aligning the door.

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: J. Huber on February 15, 2007, 22:06:53: Well, I luckily stumbled upon some acceptable plugs while I was searching for the cup washers. The local hardware store had them, 10 cents a piece. Several colors to choose from (I did black). These are really thin, with a little star-shaped plug that goes into a phillips screwhead.

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Glove box door hinge
Post by: Douglas on February 15, 2007, 23:31:51: quote:
Originally posted by mbz.280sl

Are they just intended to be small bumpers for the closing of the glove box?

Otto

Otto,

Yes, those are little bumpers to cushion the door as it swings shut.

Douglas Kim
New York
USA