Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: pagoda113 on July 23, 2014, 09:49:31
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Hi all
Have 1966 230sl left hand drive drive one owner. 89000 verified miles and all matching numbers, color code 190g. Have all original manuals and paperwork from day one. Has paperwork travelling to USA buying car in Germany with all these options listed on invoice. Skid plates, roof rack, 3 piece luggage, power steering, leather seats, zf5 gear box, sideways 3rd seat and radio. Also paper work for shipping car to USA with German export plates also. The car has its own journal on everything that was done over the years including days out in it with miles logged off the journey distance etc. Was just wondering how rare this car is still having all the options in tact with car and original paint, Also original soft top which is like new but with some slight color fade within window. The chassis is like new still nice and clean original with stainless exhaust system fitted.
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A rare and valuable car (value has probably almost tripled in the last 10 years). Also the first year for the ZF option. What's the interior colour - red? Detailed photos would be much appreciated here. You may be able to polish some of the damage out of the soft top window.
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Well the 230 is not that rare, but the list of options and the nice original condition your car seems to be in are not common. The documentation you have is also a plus.
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Very rare I'd guess, especially if it's got all the options listed from new still with the car, and 5 speed, and especially if it's never been/doesn't need repairing. I think I speak for everyone here - post some photos,
Neil
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Hello
Thanks for the replies, No gearbox is fine and never been repaired just well maintained and documented. The interior color is black seat with that two tone fleck color carpet. I will try over next few days to get some piccies uploaded.
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If it's as good as it looks I think it's very very rare, how did you find it and are you going to use it?
Neil
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Oh yeah.
The pale wheels look a little strange? And the rockers appear to be body colour.
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.../... I will try over next few days to get some piccies uploaded
Would you happen to have a sharper version of the picture with the literature display -interesting
/Hans in Sweden
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The wheels look repainted, and I wonder whether the car was repainted, especially because the sills are body color as is more common in the UK.
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Looks like the car has had some paintwork done to it due to the sillcover issue and the non matching left front fender color.
Still looks like a very very nice car and with the documented history, all the options and good condition as well as relatively low mileage,
makes it quite a rare find I'd say.
More pictures would be nice.
Hans
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Since you're in Surrey why not bring it to me for a professional appraisal?
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Wow thanks for all your replies. For now the car will sit in my garage with my other Pagodas, It has the export plates on it and the luggage on the roof lol.
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Very nice car, but did the 230SL's ever come with an antenna on the rear left quarter panel? They were more prominent in that location on the later 280SL models. Also I note that the front carpets don't seem to be there as only the ribbed sheet metal floor pan can be seen. You must have taken them out to be aired?? ;D
Yem
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Nice car with great options and a suitcase full of literature!
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Also I note that the front carpets don't seem to be there as only the ribbed sheet metal floor pan can be seen. You must have taken them out to be aired?? ;D
I think these are plastic mats that were standard on 230s
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Oh I see are they the wide ribbed version as opposed to the finely ribbed type rubber mat in the boot?
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Rubber mats and left rear quarter antenna are likely both original! The ribbing is fine like the boot.
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Rear centre chrome strip seems to be missing.
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Left rear quarter panel aerial is common and correct. The dealer installed radio aerial amy end up anywhere and particularly when they were the Hersham electrical, it was probably easier to fit to the rear for access and space. Rubber floor mats sure look original to me as they should have been.
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While the Pagoda posted and described by the OP may be rare ... I think every Pagoda is somehow rare in it's own way :)
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My 1967 Italian version 230SL had the Hirschmann manual antenna exactly where that one is when I bought it in 1987. Unfortunately I bent it severely a few years ago and have to replace it (this time with an electric one for its own good) while I'm restoring it.
Tom Kizer
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While the Pagoda posted and described by the OP may be rare ... I think every Pagoda is somehow rare in it's own way :)
Well said Rolf :)
John
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Morning everyone
Wow loads of great replies and much appreciated. Some very interesting comments and have no reason to believe the cars originality. The owner kept very detailed dairy of this car from trips out noting mileage and location, nothing was left out. Anyway getting ready now for Silverstone classic, Heading off tom morning and weather is looking to be a scorcher.
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Nice to see some local enthusiasts (am new around here but London based).
Lovely car. Cool colour.
I am after a lhd pagoda. If you have any idea, pls give me a shout.
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Here is some more pictures thought you all might like to see of this car.
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Cool car!
What's the gauge to the left of the ignition?
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Lol its some outside temp gauge just stuck on with sticky tab.
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Morning everyone
Update on this rare find, Car is now shipped into UK and arrived safely home all tucked away in nice warm dry garage. I have taken some more pictures to show you.
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As you can see now some of the options on this car.
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Very, very nice. What countries licence plates do you have on the car?
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Hello.
they are the original export plates from stugghart to USA. I have the original shipping paperwork and insurance paperwork at time off export to USA for the original one owner. I also have paper work stating that the arial was first fitted on drivers side rear wing.
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Was lovely weekend so thought i would get car out of garage and take some photos.
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some more piccies
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some more pictures
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some more
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Last few pictures
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defiantly lol last pictures
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I would really like to see that car in the flesh!
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Lol there are lots of people waiting to see this car. Drop me email with your number. I do know of you as I Mercedes club member.
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Maybe we should have a Surrey or SE cars and coffee meet?
Naj
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Have sent you message
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Morning everyone. Now you have seen some pictures of this and know about all the options this car and its history, Also how rare and unique it is. I am now need help with some answers please. Ok here goes, The car is not concours but in fact extremely very clean and tidy presenting very well as you can see in the pictures and most importantly it is still one owner car and original. The chassic is also absolutely perfect free from rust and 100% original. If i was to have paint correction done on the car ie removing those swirl marks and any scratches and few little dings removed, Also having the engine bay cleaned from dust and detailed would i be jeopodising its originality ? So please post your answers for me. Do i leave alone or do i do it ? Basically i do not want to harm its value and originality.
Sorry forgot to mention has anyone had dealings with sportscarprotection.com This is the company who would be doing it. They have very huge reputation, They look after cars at Brookelands Mercedes and also looks after Chris Evans cars etc.
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I dont think getting it professionally cleaned is going to alter the value of the car.
If it is one owner, then I am taking it you are the one owner. I note it has a red emergency flasher switch in the dash, Mine, like yours, was a German delivery for export but I didnt think they added the emergency switch until later iin the production run. Did you add it? Also it has painted sills and I didn’t think MB delivered any cars with the sills body colour ??? If this is so then touching the paint work will not alter its value if it has already been repainted.
Garry
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Hi Garry
yes correct car was delivered for export to USA and emergency flasher is indeed original. If you read posting from beginning you will find out more about the car. Yes indeed car is one owner and stored now here in UK and insured under chassis no as not going to register car at moment. As for the seals they are not painted body color, Pictures can play tricks on our eyes lol. Thanks thou for your comments.
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I don't believe that a cleaning of any type will jeopardize originality unless they go too far and wear off any paint/decals etc. My car didn't have swirl marks like yours but instead was very dull from lack of attention. I had it "wet-sanded" and buffed after having a local competent dent-removal shop take out 17 "dings". I did have a second pagoda for a while that needed a full repaint. In the end, I was nervous driving/parking/leaving the freshly painted car. For me, since the paint on the car could refurbished, I am pleased that I didn't paint this one.
This stated, I realize that the lighter colors are more forgiving.