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Title: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Cees Klumper on August 25, 2004, 14:14:35
In my case, 5 years (I bought it on August 22, 1999). Update July 2005: almost 6 years.
I am interested to see how long everyone has owned theirs?

Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: hauser on August 25, 2004, 14:24:36
I have owned my current Pagoda for two years.  I am happy to say they have been trouble free. 8)   My 250 ZF 5 was about a year or so.

1969 280sl 5 spd        1999 ML320          Gainesville,Fl.
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: jeffc280sl on August 25, 2004, 14:33:13
I've owned my current 1970 olive green 280SL 4 speed for about 10 years.  Owned another 1970 olive green 280SL auto for 3 years while in college.  Just had to get another one for the memories.  I courted my wife in the first one.

Jeff C.
1970 280SL 4-speed
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: rwmastel on August 25, 2004, 15:31:49
Bought mine in August, 2000.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Ed Cave on August 25, 2004, 16:26:20
I bought mine June 2, 2004 (perhaps the newest owner in this group). I will see (parts of) it for the very first time this weekend when I travel to San Diego where it is undergoing restoration. The carcass went to the paint shop yesterday, so, while I will only see an array of the dismantled parts and pieces, I can't wait.


Ed Cave
Atlanta, GA

1971 280SL
1964 356C
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Mike Hughes on August 25, 2004, 16:39:05
I first tried to buy my 230SL from the original owner in October of 1989, but it went to a friend instead.  So I pestered my friend on and off for 14 years until he finally was ready to pass it on to me just last December.  It was worth the wait.

- Mike Hughes  -ô¿ô-
  1966 230SL Auto P/S
  Havanna Brown (408)
  Light Beige (181)
  Cream M-B Tex (121)

Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Albert-230SL on August 26, 2004, 00:45:36
7 years and a half. I bought mine in February of 1997. I was 26 years old then (and the car was 33)... and some of my friends didn't understand the change I did then: to sell my fast VW Corrado VR6 (2.9l, 190 HP) in order to buy such "old car"  :D ... but now I'm sure that I took a good decision!  ;)

Albert de la Torre Chavalera
Barcelona (Catalunya/Spain)
Feb.'64 230 SL Euro 113042-10-002432
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: knirk on August 26, 2004, 01:45:12
A little more than a year (16. june 2003). Before that I had a R107 350sl which died of a rust attack.

Per G. Birkeland
69 280 sl aut 834
Norway
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Ben on August 26, 2004, 02:20:08
I bought mine in September 2001!  Using it daily ever since !!

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.
'03 CLK Kompressor
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: hands_aus on August 26, 2004, 04:41:32
I bought my 250 SL auto in June 2002. I love the car.
It is my main hobby and learning about it and learning how to fix things on it have given me lots of pleasure and heart ache. I wish I was more of a hands-on mechanic with more garage space.
I drive it as much as I can, in fact I travelled almost 5000Km last year... hard to imagine really!

Bob (Brisbane,Australia)
RHD,1967 early 250 SL, auto
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Malc on August 26, 2004, 05:22:21
Since July 2003
(But not in my shed yet!)
Malc
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Mark in KS on August 26, 2004, 07:55:49
I purchased mine on Valentines Day in 2003.  My 9 year old son and I then drove it 600 miles cross country without a problem the day we bought it.  Since then, it's been a fun adventure of fixes and improvements to make it a great driver.

Mark in KS
'67 230SL 4 spd
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: J. Huber on August 26, 2004, 11:05:04
I officially took possession of mine on June 14th, 1987. I know this because it was the day I graduated from UC Santa Barbara. About 3 years earlier my Mom had said -- "well you can have the car whenever you finish college"... Talk about an incentive! I hit the books and graduated Magna Cum Pagoda!  8)

James
63 230SL
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: TheEngineer on August 26, 2004, 17:50:34
I bought a blue 230SL in June '71 and we had it many years. The family grew and we sold it and went to station wagons. Last Year I wanted to buy a small convertible and centered in on a Mazda Miata: My wife wanted nothing to do with it. She said, it looks ridiculous when two old people get out of a new Miata and why don't you buy another Pagoda. So I did in October for my 71st birthday. I've been working on the car ever since and got to know it pretty well by now. I find many no-no's which were done mostly by mercedes shops (I have the receipts obtained from previous owners) But the car is driveable and - I think - I'm having fun? Besides, the Pagoda has room behind the seats for my dog. He just loves it.

1969 280SL,Signal Red, A/T, P/S, A/C, Both tops.    Ret. engr. 1967 230SL - Sold
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: gwuisman on August 27, 2004, 05:08:40
I bought my 280sl in oktober 1999 in Germany.

Gerard Wuisman
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: bpossel on August 27, 2004, 05:27:00
I purchased my 280sl in June of this year.  Bought it in Sedona, AZ. and drove it home to Memphis (~1400 miles).  I love the car, and it is a joy to work on.  After a hard day of repair and/or cleaning, the reward is getting in with the top down and going for a ride.

Bob


quote:
Originally posted by cees klumper

In my case, 5 years (I bought it on August 22, 1999). I am interested to see how long everyone has owned theirs?

Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic



bpossel
Memphis, TN.
1971 280SL
1997 E320
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: hughet on August 27, 2004, 10:36:15
I have owned my  65 230SL Over 15 years. In that time I have been through the motor, painted it (in my garage with a TP turbine from bare metal using variprime uroprime Chromabase and chromaclear), installed 2 soft tops, restored the interior, restored the hardtop, front and rear suspension rebuild  (the rear with  a 280SE 4.5 so I have rear disks), timevalve exhaust, and yes  a lot of oil changes.
It is a driver and we toot around in it every day. I have 3 kids who drove it to high school for 2 years each. Coolest car on the parking lot, but when my youngest son was a senior he didnt get a single vote in the cool car contest because all the kids who voted thought it was a replica car! I guess they had never seen windup windows before.
Tom Hughes
St. Louis
A great economy car! easy to work on with no depreciation. Paid 9k for it plus about 7k for all the repair work listed above and it is probably worth more than that today.
Its 40th birthday is coming up on October 13th according to the original delivery papers I have. We are gonna have a party!
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: tobacco on August 27, 2004, 22:59:37

Purchased new on April 15, 1971.


Bill Greffin
Chicago
#22375
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: rwmastel on August 28, 2004, 06:38:52
quote:
Originally posted by Tobacco

Purchased new on April 15, 1971.

April, 15?  Is your Pagoda some sort of tax shelter??   :D

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: n/a on August 29, 2004, 03:45:54
I have my 230 SL since March 1997. Only do about 1.000 km's per year. But really enjoy all of them.

Willy, 230 SL 1967 Auto - 220 SEb 1965 Auto
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Longtooth on September 13, 2004, 00:45:39
Purchased my '67 250SL 4Spd in August 1984 ---  

Drove for 2 years, let it sit in my garage uncovered for 15 yrs (brought it out to strip and paint in about '88 or '89... let it sit again 'til '00... then restored everything (mostly so far) back to factory fresh (except suspension/undercarriage and windshield)... a few pieces of chrome yet to be done (beauty rings among them).  

I drive it ~8k mile/year at 80 - 90 mph most of the time, topdown ... sometimes I look around carefully (for CHP) and when I think I'm safe, I punch it up to 110 mph for 3-5 miles when there's almost no traffic...  The 113 seems to sit tighter and feel better above 80 mph... & based on my experience living in the '60's in Germany, that's just about the minimum speed anybody with an SL drove them... like it's probably where the MB engineers concentrated effort on drivability when it was designed
 
Previous owner purchased it in '68 or '69 from the original owner... both local (Santa Clara Valley --- aka Silicon Vally ---, CA) owners... originally purchased at Local MB dealer. All maintenance done as same shop over it's life (except 1st 2 years original owner had it serviced at our local MB dealer)... all records.

Longtooth
67 250SL US #113-043-10-002163
95 SL500
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: CarlG on September 13, 2004, 08:27:39
I bought my 230sl from the daughter of the original owner in Sept. 1996.  He had died about 6 years before that and must not have been able to drive it for a few before that so it had sat for a number of years and needed lots of work, most of which is done now.  Always more to be done, as we all know.

1967 230sl (stick)
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Klaus on September 13, 2004, 08:56:29
Bought it in August 1982 and drove it 51,000 miles since then.

Klaus
1969 280 SL
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: John A. Dean on September 13, 2004, 09:47:02
I bought my first 230 SL in 1980, rescued it from a barn, sort of thing, patched, greased and cleaned a few things then sold it for twice what I paid for it to help fund my continuing education. I always wanted another one so that when I had the money, time and space I bought a much better example in September of 2000, and continue to enjoy this car.  I have tinkered on or rebuilt so many different type of vehicles, that I know (by comparison) that it is always a pleasure to work on something with a good solid engineering base, good metallurgy, great parts availability and the support of internet groups such as this makes the experience that much better.

1969 280SL, manual, MB TEX, green/cognac
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: iceberg on September 13, 2004, 14:18:08
I have wanted this car since I was 11.  Having owned a number of Mercedes Benzes, I always wanted the Pagoda.  Finally last year on Sept 3 which happened to be my 28th Birthday, I purchased my first Pagoda from the original owners wife.  The 1963 230 SL manual shift.  I always fancied the automatic 280 Sl, but you know I have grown really fond of this one.  A little less luxurious than the 280 SL, the 230 SL is certainly has a more sporty, rugged, minimilistic interior.  I kinda like that.  Plus I think I have a great car on my hands.  A very early example, 000164, it came with a power steering and a lot of Documented history.  Ofcourse there were problems, but hey I lvie very close to Dr. Benz and something tells me that as long as he is my Dr. I am going to enjoy this car for a very long time.

Regards,
Hassan
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Benz Dr. on September 13, 2004, 16:30:23
I've had a 113 since 1989. The first one, a 1969 280SL, I never drove and sold the car along with a restoration. It was colour changed from brown to silver and lives in the Toronto area. It's a VERY pretty 4 speed car.

The Red Rocket was bought on Dec. 13th 1993 ( my birthday present to myself on the 14th ) from a guy in Greensborough NC. I flew down there with a friend, bought the car and drove it back home. I also bought a 1961 190SL in June of that same year which I still have.

Daniel G Caron
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: n/a on September 17, 2004, 14:12:53
I bought my 4 spd 66 230 in 1989 and with the exception of the past three years drove it reqularly as a work car. I started plowing gobs of money into a 500HP Honda CRX and had a lot of fun with it. That is, until last month when I rammed the Honda head-on into a concrete culvert at the bottom of 6 foot ditch at about 80 mph. My first instinct was to blame the road zombie that illegally crossed my path with a cell phone implanted in her ear (never touched her)but I'm thinking it was a sign. Not only was I alive (I firmly believe in seatbelts)but I had another very good car I knew I could fall back on.

 I pulled the old 230 out, bought a new dry cell battery, pertronix electronic ignition, rebuilt power steering box and started driving it again. I'm having a hard time getting over what the 230 would have been had I put my money into it instead of the Honda. All I know is that it feels like home again driving with the top down on cool days and nights and I can't remember exactly how I ever thought I could do better.

Mikey
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: n/a on September 19, 2004, 20:25:55
I fell in love with the 113 in 1979 when I saw a horizon blue one driving down Charles Street in Baltimore.  In 1992 I finally bought my 280sl from a friend who had it for 13 years.  He finally relented after my frequent requests.
I've had fun with it ever since.
Don
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: George Des on September 20, 2004, 20:29:53
Purchased my DBO50 (white) 1967 230SL ZF 5 speed in 1977 in Vicenza Italy. Engine was rebuilt using all MB parts by Giorgio's Garage in Longare, Italy. Shipped to US in March 1978 (Wilmington Del)and used as a daily driver until loaded up and shipped back to Livorno, Italy when I was reassigned to Camp Darby. Lots of autostrada/autobahn trips between Italy and Germany running up through Milan, the Gran St Bernard through Switzerland. ZF was rebuilt in Mannheim. Finally shipped back to US from Bremerhaven in 1983. Been off the road for last 10 years while undergoing a frame up resto. Have had it out on the road for several tests and still working out all the "bugs" associated with the resto work before I declare "victory".

George Des
1967 230Sl Euro (IT)ZF 5 Speed
2001 S430
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: 114015 on September 21, 2004, 17:28:08
Bought my 1964 230 SL Euro in July 1995 in Seattle, WA.

Achim
(Magdeburg, Germany)
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: n/a on July 23, 2005, 02:21:36
Since April 1969
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: mbzse on July 23, 2005, 04:42:51
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I am interested to see how long everyone has owned their cars?

Since February 1995, i.e. some 10 years
Hans Strom  250SL red 568


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/Hans in Stockholm
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: TR on July 23, 2005, 08:38:41
There's some great stories on this thread.

Have owned this car since mid-1985, now 20 years.  Have all service records since new.

Currently in the midst of a long, slow project with the objective of enhancements to reliability, safety, security, and performance, as well as making the car suitable for coast-to-coast drives with all the levels of creature comforts my wife has grown to demand.  This means many things, such as A/C running full blast all the time in warm/hot weather, including while the top is down at freeway speeds, active ventilation seats, back massagers, all the entertainment systems...the list goes on & on.

Although we're still not done, last week the local M-B dealer described the car as a 2006 / 1971 280SL, which sounded pleasing to me.  During this enhancement process no fundamental changes have been made, meaning no cutting of metal.

As the years continue to pass my goal is to keep the car current with certain technological enhancements, all of which will be reasonably well hidden.

My philosophy is that the car should be easily returnable to orig. conditon/configuration if and when the mood should strike.  Primarily that would mean removing all the new surface materials, such as stripping the leather cover from the ship's wheel, pulling up the modern M-B carpet mat'l, putting the original air filter, exhaust system, original-style rearview mirror, speakers, viscous-clutch fan, etc, etc. back in place.  Not sure why I'm keeping all this stuff, because I'm pretty sure the car will not be returned to it's fully original configuration (including MB Tex) in my lifetime.  We've not used this 280SL too much during the past 20 years, but intend to in the future.  Can't think of a better way to kick around N. America (wife strongly prefers good hotels to a motor home).

Tom in Boise
'71 280SL 4-spd, signal red w/lt. tan interior, restored/enhanced
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: PK on July 23, 2005, 12:38:44
quote:
Originally posted by cees klumper

In my case, 5 years (I bought it on August 22, 1999). I am interested to see how long everyone has owned theirs?

Cees Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic

day 2 ! my wife and ihave been looking for "just the right funmobile" and fell for our 1964 230sl. it runs, needs a lot of work to get it to a safe and enjoyable level.
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: blairwag on July 23, 2005, 17:49:36
Got mine summer of 2002 - so, about 3 years now. However, I got it from my father - who owned it since Summer of 1972. I wish I could say its been trouble free - but I can't. I seem to spend anywhere from 2-3 hours working on the car, for every hour I drive it.  No complaints - however. I love our "Lil Red Car".

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
William Blair Wagner: blairwag@earthlink.net
Education is not always knowing the answer,
...but rather knowing where to look for it!
1971 280SL US Automatic
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Jonny B on July 23, 2005, 17:53:11
I got mine in April 2003. I had a 107 for 13 years before that. I always wanted the 113 style, since high school, and finally found a decent one.

Jonny B
1967 250SL Auto
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: pagode.info on July 24, 2005, 02:09:01
I got mine in 2002 and had 2 others before.

Have a nice day.

Tom
 
 
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: saygold on July 24, 2005, 11:49:03
I have always liked the pagodas after seeing one while in college. Unfortunately, I'm one who is old enough to see them when they are new.  I bought my 230SL in 1986 as my present to myself when returning from working overseas.  I kept it parked in the garage with my wife's car outside in north-east Nevada (rather nasty weather sometimes in case you haven't been there).  

When we went overseas in 1992, I sold it to my brother, then bought it back from him about 6 months later (it was parked in his garage).  The interior and exterior were professonally restored over about 4 years (parked in their garage, of course), then my brother drove it once in a while.  I started using it again in 1998.  It's now parked in my garage in Gig Harbor, WA. I don't use it enough: I've put only about 30,000 km during this time period.
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Cees Klumper on July 24, 2005, 13:55:53
Hello Saygold - actually putting on 30.000 km in 7 years is not bad at all - most people put on less.

Cees ("Case") Klumper in Amsterdam
'69 white 280 SL automatic
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: rwmastel on July 24, 2005, 17:39:02
He might mean since 1986, 19 years.

Rodd
Powell, Ohio, USA
1966 230SL, Euro, Auto, Leather, both  tops
1994 E420
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: saygold on July 24, 2005, 20:15:23
Yes, I have put only 30,000 km since 1986.  Sorry for not clarifying it.

Ken Deter
1966 230SL (euro)
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: TR on July 24, 2005, 20:38:54
Ken -- Well, you're in a wonderful place to rack up some miles now.  Gig Harbor is beautiful.

Tom in Boise
'71 280SL 4-spd, signal red w/lt. tan interior, restored/enhanced
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Ben on July 25, 2005, 04:27:45
Have mine since 1st December 2001 and I've put up over 70,000 km's since !  [:0]

I love driving it but it will be retired later this year and I'll start to do the body in 2005 !

Regards,
Ben in Ireland.
'64 230SL 4sp.
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: Vince Canepa on July 25, 2005, 05:24:29
Purchased used from Stahl Motor Company, Monterey, California December 1971.

Vince Canepa
1967 250SL
113.043-10-001543
568H Signal Red
116 Caviar MB-Tex
Title: Re: Poll: how long have YOU owned your Pagoda?
Post by: pablo_o2 on July 25, 2005, 11:59:46
I've bought mine 2 years ago and only drove it from the port (shippingCy) to my home. I decided to fully restore the car from the beginning. So untill now it is still in restoration and hope to have it finished at the end of this year. It was love at first sight the moment I saw a local businessguy had one some 30 years ago, almost bought one 12 years ago and finally as I said bought one 2 years ago and hope to never have to sell it again. I have 2 sons so think i will pass it to them later on...

Paul Haems
'68 280SL