Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: rmmchl on June 02, 2014, 02:14:28
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I really have to turn the wheel 180 degrees before my blinker light kicks off, when turning, after I flip on the turn signal. I had the steering bushings replaced a few months ago. Was wondering if this had anything to do with it. Maybe the mechanic forgot to do something. I am not familiar with the mechanism of how the turn signal works with the steering wheel.
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Hello Mike, it sounds like they may not have got the steering column indexed correctly. It is easy to check, but difficult to set up. To check it, park the car with the front wheels straight. Pop the steering wheel pad off the center of the steering wheel. Look down into the steering wheel hub. Use a flashlight (torch to some of us). You will see the 22mm steering wheel nut around the steering shaft. On the end of the steering shaft you will see a "slash" mark. The slash mark should be at 12:00 position when the wheels are straight ahead. If not then the steering shaft is not indexed correctly and the turn signal cancellation will not work properly. Get back with us for the fix if this is the case.
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Good advise but for anyone looking at this in the future be advised that for RHD vehicles the slash mark is in the "6 o'clock" position.
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Most interesting, it makes sense. So does that mean the turns signal stalk is on the other side also? Thanks Stick.
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I had this same problem a while back and it was the indexing that was off. Happened when I redid the bushings and I wasn't paying attention. I waited until I replaced my power steering box to fix, because it is a PITA to do. In the end I took Chuck Taylor's advice and removed the entire steering column so I could push the steering shaft into the centered box assembly with the wheel properly indexed. Yeah, a pain in the neck to remove the tach and speedo along with the ignition lock assembly but it sure beats trying to manhandle the box and attachments while trying to keep everything aligned properly.
George
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Hi Joe, Stick is correct. The steering marks are all upside down for a RHD 230! Threw me for a while when I was putting it all back together. The BBB I have is out of the states and is all at 12 oclock.
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Thanks Andy! Nice pics,
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thanks Joe.
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Joe, sounds like the fix is way difficult. Is it okay to leave it?
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The fix is not particularly difficult. Like everything on these cars though, it is the issue of getting access that is the problem. If the front end is off the car already or the dash disassembled this is a fairly simple job. I see no harm in leaving things alone if the inconvenience of having to manually cancel does not bother you.
George
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I have decided that it's not that bad. If I make a complete turn, it works. If a put on the blinker to change lanes, it won't disengage the blinker, and I need to cut it off manually. It might even be correct. I never remember it not cancelling the turn signal like it does now after I had the bushings replaced. If it's a little off, I can live with it. It's been a good topic anyways. Again, Joe Alexander shows his diagnostic skills to the max!
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I had this fixed on my 4.5 sedan while changing the steering coupling. Basicly separate the steering box from the coupling then index the shaft with the wheels straight and reconnect the coupling. All this was done on a lift to make things easier to reach.