Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on December 03, 2013, 01:33:59

Title: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on December 03, 2013, 01:33:59
Believe it or not BARBUS has a 280 SL Pagode for sale having 2,875 KM for 198,000 Euro.

That would be $268,171- US, $285,241- CDN or 293,983 Australian Dollars …

Check it out --->http://www.brabus.com/en/cars4sale.php?id=28519&kategorie=3

I don't think it will sell for that price, unless some very rich collector likes to put it into his garage :) 

Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Peter van Es on December 03, 2013, 11:30:30
They have sold about three already at prices over €200K when I last checked at Technoclassica Essen. These cars end up with people in Russia, China or the Middle East that earn that sort of money in interest per day, and who cannot be bothered to research anything about these cars prior to purchasing.
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Jonny B on December 03, 2013, 15:51:48
At that kind of money you would think they could get the details correct. The one that stood out right away was the white painted cover in front of the battery , that shows through the grill from the front on shot. Lots of stuff messed up under the hood. Guess Peter got it accurately about the buyers, "I want a Pagoda, and I want it now, and here's the check"
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: 49er on December 03, 2013, 16:17:19
 Yes, they did go a bit crazy with the plating under the hood. I wonder if the the oil filler cap is solid gold? :D

John
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Bonnyboy on December 03, 2013, 17:09:50
Does anyone know what that little red box on the dash is - is it an electric eye for changing the headlights automatically?  (I had one in my 57 Cadillac - about the only thing on that car that worked)
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Flyair on December 03, 2013, 17:41:22
Speaking of flaws spotted on this particular car I think that for the money the ask they could have better sorted out the boot/trunk floor as well as the firewall

Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on December 03, 2013, 19:06:53
As Peter said, the people that purchase those cars have money to burn (I guess in the end we all pay for it with the high gasoline prices). As for authenticety I don't think the purchasers in this high price range know the difference like a fair percentage of the Members here. All they care about having one and that everything is sparkling new.   
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Raymond on December 03, 2013, 23:01:15
Hey Brabus!  You can keep anything over $150K you can get for mine.  ;D

Question though.  When did the placement of the VIN plate on the firewall start or end?
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Garry on December 04, 2013, 00:03:29
Ray,

Euro model,

My 230 has it there, my 280 had it there.

Garry
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on December 04, 2013, 00:13:03
This gives me an idea to ship mine to Germany get it certified for Europe and enjoy it for 3 to 5 years on extended summer vacations :) Then of course sell my little blue tornado and purchase one of each in Canada (a 230, 250 and 280 SL) need a larger house or rase the roof on my garage and put in two of those contraptions where I can park 4 cars in a 2 car garage once the roof has been raised  :) … yes I know a pipe dream. Better plan would be to find one in Germany, get her fixed up and park her at my Brothers place when I don't need her.

What you fellows think? What will it cost to make a 280 SL road worthy for Europe? Shipping her to Germany would run me around $3.5K I think.
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: pj on December 04, 2013, 00:38:54
Dieter,
it's not a pipe dream at all. You are an engineer, a businessman -- and still young :-)
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on December 04, 2013, 00:43:37
Peter,

I think Linda would leave me for sure. LOL or I'll be in the dog house for life :) one or the other.
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Garry on December 04, 2013, 03:13:04
Rolf-Dieter,

One of the Australian members  Geoff AKA "Treedoc" is selling his 280SL LHD ex USA that he has in Switzerland at the moment.  Need to hard bargain him and save on shipping.  Its a nice car.

Garry
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Flyair on December 04, 2013, 05:00:34
Raymond,

Here is what our Tech Man says: "Around early 1964, the Body and Paint Number Plate was relocated underhood onto this relay holder bracket between the brake booster and the left side fender. It was affixed earlier in the production process and thus underwent the paint process."

Some people claimed elsewhere that that the placement of the VIN plate on the firewall or on the side varied depending on the geographic version.
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: hkollan on December 04, 2013, 06:57:43
Raymond,

Quote
When did the placement of the VIN plate on the firewall start or end?

For Euro cars the VIN-plate/Type plate was always located on the upper  right side of the firewall.
On later US cars the VIN-plate was moved to the A-pillar and eventually to the B-pillar (driver side).

Maybe someone knows more about when  these changes were made to the US-versions,
 as I don't think it is mentioned specifically in the TM.

Hans



Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Flyair on December 04, 2013, 22:26:22
in this particular Pagoda at nearly 200.000 Euro I take it that all the plates are probably in solid gold, as maybe some other pieces as well  ???
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: TR on December 06, 2013, 03:27:52
While obviously not a W113, I did find the pricing of this R121 somewhat interesting.

http://newsroom.mercedes-benz-classic.com/en/vehicles/?cid=294
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: mtoomey on December 06, 2013, 12:13:47
I would guess that the little red box on the dash is a GPS antenna for the new Becker radio -
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: GGR on December 06, 2013, 12:28:24
While obviously not a W113, I did find the pricing of this R121 somewhat interesting.

http://newsroom.mercedes-benz-classic.com/en/vehicles/?cid=294


That price is 300SL territory just a few years ago!
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: 49er on December 06, 2013, 16:16:18
There was an episode of "chasing classics" on velocity  this past Tuesday where they auctioned off an identical 190SL, including fitted luggage, for $200k at Amelia. Wonder if this is the same car? Not sure how current the episode was.

John
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Dave H on December 06, 2013, 18:59:07
Has anyone priced up what it would truly cost to rebuild a pagoda to this level.
Would you get much change out of €198.000 ?
I think these Brabus cars and the fabulous signature restorations performed
By motoring investments( the latest one is $290.000) are what we would all strive to achieve and own if money were
No object...I know I would .
Imagine...it would be like walking into a Mercedes showroom in 1969 ..how nice would that be ? Pick any colour you wanted!
Title: Re: New Restored Pagoda for Sale @ 198,000 Euro
Post by: Rolf-Dieter ✝︎ on December 06, 2013, 21:15:04
I think that people that enter the showroom at Brabus or any other place that restores cars to that level never give money a second thought. Brabus of course knows this and there pricing is set accordingly. There cliental are proberly in the 10, to 60 plus milion range some are even more. The world has quite a few people like that and like us they are car enthusiast or collectors.

The number is growing more and more interesting read here ---> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/10158420/A-record-breaking-number-of-millionaires-in-the-world.html