Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: paults1 on December 27, 2012, 22:29:48

Title: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: paults1 on December 27, 2012, 22:29:48
Is the trunk lock cylinder the same as the glove box ?  My ' 63 230sl did not have keys for the glove box and the trunk lock when I purchased it. Later I was able to have a locksmith fit a MB spec. Key for the glove box. I need to do the same for the trunk lock if the cylinders are the same.
Regards,  Paul
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: georgem on December 27, 2012, 23:56:08
Paul,

I have a `65 230  and I have three keys - ignition, glove box and one for the boot. I think this is the norm.

Cheers
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: 280SE Guy on December 28, 2012, 00:58:27
Paul,

Perhaps you should look at this page in the technical manual: http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Interior/Locks (http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Interior/Locks)

You can obtain the proper keys from your local Mercedes Benz parts department or contact the Classic Center. You will need to provide a copy of your title showing you as the owner and drivers license.

I'm not sure if the 230SL is that much different from my '71 280SE But there is a master key and a valet key for my model. The master key opens and locks everything; doors, ignition, trunk, glove box, and the locking gas cap. The valet key only gives someone access to the door locks and ignition.

Regards,

280SE Guy


Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: relbhcb on December 28, 2012, 07:32:25
I'm not sure if the 230SL is that much different from my '71 280SE But there is a master key and a valet key for my model. The master key opens and locks everything; doors, ignition, trunk, glove box, and the locking gas cap. The valet key only gives someone access to the door locks and ignition.
I have 3 keys for my (UK spec) 1964 230SL.
Julian
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: paults1 on December 28, 2012, 19:23:39
Well if the glove box key also works with the boot/trunk lock. I assume I can have a locksmith re-key the trunk lock to match the glove box lock. I guess I have answered my own question.
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: pagoden on December 29, 2012, 08:23:46
I think you're right.  My August '68-born 280SL still used the 3-key system, and the original glove box key also works the trunk/boot lock. 
Do you think the rear of your car may have been repaired, the deck lid/boot cover replaced, or some such? 
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: 71Beige280SL on December 29, 2012, 14:09:16
My '71 280SL has one key for everything...ignition, trunk, doors, glove box and the gas cap. Unfortunately, I do not have a valet key. When I first bought the car, it didn't have a locking gas cap. My local Mercedes dealer was able to order me a gas cap with the same key based on the VIN. The gas cap also included an additional key. I believe, the key codes are specified in item 24 and 25 of the data card.
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: paults1 on December 29, 2012, 15:00:21
I never had a key for the glove box. So I took the lock cylinder to a locksmith, he fitted a new key. That's why I want to know if the trunk lock has the same lock cylinder as the glove box.
Paul, '63 230 sl
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: Iconic on December 29, 2012, 15:30:59
Have you looked in the Tech Manual?:
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/Interior/Locks
That might help you out.

I only took a quick read through this, but it seems there is some confusion between early cars and late cars.
Late cars have the one key fits all approach, early cars do not.
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: pagoden on December 30, 2012, 08:46:43
Paul,
I was thinking that the fact that the one key works for both the trunk and glovebox in our older, three-key-system cars pretty well demonstrates that the same style cylinder is used in both mechanisms.  So yes, it seems a pretty good bet to re-key one to match the other. 
And then, on the other hand, comes the Tech Manual entry that Iconic and 280SE Guy have referred you to, which points to other possible difficulties with that approach.  Check it out before you drop serious money on locksmiths, get good counseling from the wisest-seeming of them and proceed with caution.
Maybe the best answer will be to do as you did with the glovebox: just get a key made for the trunk as well.
Let us know what you learn and how it works out.
Best luck,
Denny 
Title: Re: Trunk Lock cylinder
Post by: paults1 on December 30, 2012, 15:21:04
I have read all the info. In the tech manual & have concluded that the glove box key is the same for the trunk.  I will proceed on that course. Thank you all for the help.
Paul