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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: KW-BYBEE on September 05, 2011, 15:59:12

Title: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: KW-BYBEE on September 05, 2011, 15:59:12
My 67 250  5 speed has finally been restored and is ready for paint.  The original color is 571 red with a black 040 hard top, black soft top and cognac interior.  I am not a big fan of this color combination and am thinking about changing it.  Does anyone have an opinion as to whether I should keep the car true to the data plate or does it matter?  Is the car worth more if kept original?  Any feedback would be appreciated.....
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: knockmacool on September 05, 2011, 16:21:56
If you don't like the combo and you are going to keep the car, change it. Unless it's an exceptionally preserved or low mileage car or has some interesting history, there is no reason you shouldn't enjoy the car you want. My 2cents... What color(s) are you thinking of?

Drew
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: KW-BYBEE on September 05, 2011, 16:27:15
I am thinking all black with ivory interior. 
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: 66andBlue on September 05, 2011, 16:38:08
Very nice combination.
Take a look at the photos from a member who did just that and won trophies for the end result:
http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=5810.msg35935#msg35935

But make sure you select a very good paint shop, black is a difficult paint and flaws are easy to see.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Shvegel on September 05, 2011, 20:43:11
It really doesn't seem to effect value much. It could be argued that the right color might increase value for example silver is the Mercedes racing color and is very popular in Europe so painting a green car(no offence to green lovers) silver might actually increase value.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Garry on September 05, 2011, 22:59:02
Shvegal, wash your mouth out :o  Why be common and paint it silver, it may just decrease its value because its common, so just get something that highlights the car that you like.  Dark colours do that.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Raymond on September 05, 2011, 23:07:32
Color is your choice.  Worry more about the value to you as you enjoy it than the value it might not add to the car. 

I've had black cars and white cars, maroon, blue, and green.  The dark colors are the hardest to keep clean, the easiest to see damage on, and the best for showing any flaws in the body work.  If the constant polishing and cleaning, and noticing every little defect doesn't bother you, go dark.  It shows off the chrome really well. 8)
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: W113SL on September 06, 2011, 00:41:15
Final exterior color, should it be changed is the personal choice of the owner.  Personally I like the 571 brilliant red metallic, but with a parchment colored interior with a grey interior.

If you are concerned about ultimate resale, then a prudent choice may be to leave it alone, or paint it a popular color such as resale Signal Red.
In the MBCA concours rules, a color change is worth only 1/4 point out of 100 points.

Pete Lesler
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Shvegel on September 06, 2011, 02:37:02
Garry,
For the record my car is 350 medium blue. I toyed with painting it silver but have decided to paint it blue again.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Jim Donati on September 06, 2011, 03:16:08
Great question, this will surely entice considerable lively discussions.  

I personally feel that keeping the car unmolested and true to how it came off the factory floor is the only way to go.  So If your car is in original condition in every aspect I would seriously consider keeping it that way.  If not, then you have nothing to loose if you choose to change the color.  
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I have an unmolested '70 280SL (other than a repaint of original color) and am so appreciative that prior owners did not do anything that diminished it's originality.  To me that is part of it's charm.  My personal opinion.    ;D

Jim
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Garry on September 06, 2011, 05:44:54
Shvegel,

I seriously thought about changing my car colour to one of the blues, which I really like but ended up sticking with the original colour. I like it but it is really hard to keep clean as I live off a small dirt lane and shows every imperfection being a dark colour as Ray said.

Hence my now seeking a second Pagoda Auto in RHD in any non metallic blue........  For the Finance Director of course :o
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: GGR on September 06, 2011, 22:49:41
In general, light colors suit smaller cars better, and dark colors suit bigger cars better.

On the other hand, cognac and ivory interiors are usually best combined with dark colors, especially dark blue and dark green. An exception is light ivory with cognac interior which is a very nice and subtle combination.

As said before, dark colors require a very high quality prep and work, and are more dificult to keep clean.

My 280SL has a cognac interior an is non metal tobacco brown, with brown hard ans soft tops. I like it, though I believe tobacco brown suits a W108 or 109 better. Also, I do not have nor plan to fit A/C and this color is a torture in summer. I'm consirering painting it ivory when time comes.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: KW-BYBEE on September 09, 2011, 14:35:49
Many thanks to everyone who responded.  I appreciate the feedback.

Kyle
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: 71Beige280SL on September 10, 2011, 12:14:35
I'm struggling with the same issue. During PUB, someone pointed out to me (being the newbie I am) that my original wheel and hardtop color were tobacco (486 I think?). After much thought, and even though the paint on the wheels and hardtop are fine, I am going to restore it back to the original. Thanks to some time photoshop, The 181 Beige body with the tobacco brown wheels and hardtop looked pretty sharp to me. Unusual anyway. As other have said, I think it comes down to personal preference. I do recommend trying to use photoshop or a like tool. Helped me through the decision.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: mdsalemi on September 10, 2011, 13:03:13
The only things I would recommend (in my opinion, folks...) are the following:

If you are changing colors:

change to a valid MB color of the era.  Not hard to find, and if you can't find a an acceptable color in the MB palette...
do a complete job--dash, and all other parts that were originally colored.  Don't just respray the exterior.

Nothing says "incomplete" of "not knowing what they are doing" than a white dash with blue car, or a color from a Pontiac.
Title: Re: Repaint as original or change colors??
Post by: Oisin on September 12, 2011, 22:50:32
My red with black top 230sl used to be burgundy (before I came across it) and I sort of wish it still was.  Each colour brings out a different characteristic in the car.  The red/black combo has a certain boy-racer swagger while something like midnight blue is sophisticated and tasteful.  Not sure what burgundy says - gout ridden old bon viveur?  In a way I like the two tone as it accentuates the sassy lines - makes me wonder if chantilly lace is a colour?