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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: steves sl on August 26, 2011, 02:24:04

Title: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: steves sl on August 26, 2011, 02:24:04
Check out the October Issue, it has an excellent article our our beloved PAGODAS
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: MichaelB. on August 27, 2011, 02:16:54
It is a great article. Really sings the Pagoda praises. Plus a small price guide and mention of our site here.

Best quote comes at the end with a "now might be a great time to discover one for yourself."  :)
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: Kemal on August 27, 2011, 19:52:47
Anyone know if I could get my hands on a copy in the UK/London? ???
 :)
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: mdsalemi on August 27, 2011, 20:02:34
I was called upon by the author to read his manuscript prior to publication, and also supplied him with some background information on the car and some resources.  He took the info and "ran with it" big time; he did a great job.  I actually had nothing to say about the article he sent me for my comments, other than "great job!"
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: paults1 on August 28, 2011, 04:28:58
It is a very good article. There is one error, it listed the exhaust as "single" on page 23.
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: Larry & Norma on August 28, 2011, 07:41:56
Hi Kemal,
If you go on their website (google hemmings) you can subscribe to an electonic e-mailed version.
Only $7.00 for 1 year of mags. October mag. is not out yet on e-mail but should be soon.
Larry
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: Kemal on August 28, 2011, 22:46:24
Larry, thank you I will do that.
It was good to see you last weekend.

All the best.. ;)
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: 69280sl on August 29, 2011, 01:15:24
The Hemming article is here

http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2011/10/01/hmn_feature1.html
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: thelews on August 29, 2011, 02:10:19
I would disagree that the 280 is the last and best of the Pagodas.
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: DaveB on August 29, 2011, 02:41:29
I hear you! And you're right, the 230 is way better ;)
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: 69280sl on August 29, 2011, 02:42:11
I would disagree that the 280 is the last and best of the Pagodas.

John
The headline said "last (can't argue with that) and most desireable Pagoda". Most desireable is argueable, but a lot of people think so, ergo the price difference between the 280 and the other models. Personally, I think the 250 should be priced at a premium; both for its rarity and because it was not encumbered with the later environmental and safety changes.
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: Peter van Es on August 29, 2011, 08:47:31
I think it is a pretty good and balanced article...

Peter
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: Kemal on August 29, 2011, 11:40:54
Very nice,  :)  Thank you, Gus

The Hemming article is here

http://www.hemmings.com/hsx/stories/2011/10/01/hmn_feature1.html
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: thelews on August 29, 2011, 12:25:07
John
The headline said "last (can't argue with that) and most desireable Pagoda". Most desireable is argueable, but a lot of people think so, ergo the price difference between the 280 and the other models. Personally, I think the 250 should be priced at a premium; both for its rarity and because it was not encumbered with the later environmental and safety changes.

I'm sorry I misquoted "desirable" for best.  Yes, it is the most desirable, as determined by the market.  That is a combination of misinformation and quantity produced, in my opinion.  The bigger (engine size) is better mentality prevails, but is not always true, as in other areas.  Postitive press is always good, though.
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: rmmchl on August 30, 2011, 02:17:25
250sl is in actuality probably the best-------------the 280sl had 10 more hsp, but this is probably negated with all of the emisions stuff. Also the rarest. There are a great number of 280sl's out there
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: DaveB on August 30, 2011, 05:55:58
Yes, it is the most desirable, as determined by the market.

I reckon that should be the most desired

all laid out in the Merchant of Venice: 'who chooseth me shall gain what many men desire'
Title: Re: October Issue of Sport & Exoctic Car
Post by: mdsalemi on August 31, 2011, 21:47:46
We certainly all have our opinions.  A few things are certain--

While the 250 is, most definitely the rarest, in a buck from tradition this rarity has never translated into pricing premiums.  Why?  I don't know, but can suggest that the cars are really very similar as far as the market is concerned.  Our collective vast knowledge here exaggerates the differences; the market never has.

The 280 is generally, by price at least, the most desired.

I would agree that the Pagodas are single, not dual exhaust.  Two tips on one muffler doth not make a dual exhaust.  With mufflers and resonators shared, most woud call it a single exhaust system even with two pipes.

There really are very few "emissions related" encumbrances that affect this car; what does can be bypassed or removed easily on the late-model units.  That's a testiment to quality engineering.  I think I removed the one wire from one solenoid on mine...no difference in runnability.

Just another article to add to our collections!