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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Photo Gallery => Topic started by: 49er on April 08, 2011, 21:59:49

Title: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 08, 2011, 21:59:49
 Been digging through trays and trays of slides and I thought I would post a couple of these taken of my 280SL in April of 1969. Car was a little over 6 months old. Wish I had more but at least the quality is pretty good this time :)

John
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Iconic on April 09, 2011, 01:43:23
Keep 'em coming. ;D
I looked at the under-hood picture for many minutes.
Take a good look at that firewall pad !!
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Peter h on April 09, 2011, 05:55:07
fantastic John. Post more.
 Your motor picture is better then THE ENGELEN book motor picture, great.

Peter
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Jonny B on April 10, 2011, 16:32:34
I would agree, great to see an original owner photo for the engine!
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: JamesL on April 10, 2011, 20:39:59
That's fascinating... 6 months in and no cover on the shock tops.

Lovely pics from a proud owner!
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: badali on April 10, 2011, 20:43:45
Your car is the $175,000 car not the one on Motoring Investments.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 10, 2011, 22:32:15
Your car is the $175,000 car not the one on Motoring Investments.

 Don't tell my wife. Actually I think the SL was the reason she married me:-)

John
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 10, 2011, 22:45:14
That's fascinating... 6 months in and no cover on the shock tops.

Lovely pics from a proud owner!

 Thanks for your nice comments. The engine compartment dosen't look that quite that clean these days and most of the zinc chromate plating is gone but still not in too bad shape. Are the covers you are referring to the rectangular ones over the subframe mounts? I hadn't noticed that until one day I was looking at photos of my 250 SL's engine compartment and realized they were missing. I was informed by another member of this forum that they were not installed on 280SLs.

john
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: jacovdw on April 11, 2011, 09:33:09
...and no cover on the shock tops...

The 280SL's didn't have the rubber "thumb caps" on the top of the shock absorbers.

Beautiful photos John.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: JamesL on April 11, 2011, 12:09:55
Sorry, not the shocks, the subframe mount covers.... :-\
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: mbzse on April 11, 2011, 13:25:22
Quote from: Tosh
Sorry, not the shocks, the subframe mount covers.... :-\
280SL did not have those plastic covers, neither the 250SL of late producion.
/Hans in Stockholm

.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 11, 2011, 14:13:06
Here is a picture that I previously posted of my 250 SL's engine compartment. No "nipple" on the shock mount and plastic cover over the Sub Frame mount. I took delivery on May 20, 1967 so this was an early one.

 John
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: thelews on April 11, 2011, 15:20:21
Looks a lot like mine.  Kudos to the previous owner (Vince) for keeping it that way.  My radiator expansion tank stickers are on the other side (same).  The brake booster was replaced, but I have the original which no doubt has the documentation on it.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 11, 2011, 15:23:41
Looks a lot like mine.  Kudos to the previous owner (Vince) for keeping it that way.

Mine didn't look that nice when it was brand new! beautiful.

John
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: thelews on April 11, 2011, 16:37:58
There seems to be a slight variation in pattern of the firewall pad in the 280 vs. the 250.  The 250s' pattern doesn't seem quite as pronounced or defined.  Mine is original to the car.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Garry on April 11, 2011, 22:03:45
John,

I also notice that you have the shock tower cover on , as I also have, but in another thread, it was indicated that 280's did not have it.  Is that something that we both have wrong?

Garry
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: J. Huber on April 12, 2011, 00:05:17
Hi Garry, I think the covers are on the 250 John used to have...
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 12, 2011, 00:25:55
Hi Garry, I think the covers are on the 250 John used to have...

 James, your are correct. I traded in my 250 on my 280 back in '68. Sorry for the confusion

John
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: thelews on April 12, 2011, 00:38:09
John,

I also notice that you have the shock tower cover on , as I also have, but in another thread, it was indicated that 280's did not have it.  Is that something that we both have wrong?

Garry

You have it right Garry, another thing the early cars (230/early 250) had that the later ones didn't.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Garry on April 13, 2011, 02:09:49
John (49er')

Can we have a couple of more photos of your engine bay.  I am trying to get all the right hose clamps on my 280 and whilst the earlier photo shows some of the clamps, a view from the other direction, knowing that it is original, would be great.
Thanks
Garry
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: 49er on April 13, 2011, 02:45:19
Hi Garry, I did post a Black and White picture on this thread "VDO water bottle bracket" a while ago http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?topic=13651.msg93171#msg93171

 When I recently brought my car back to "life", I opted not to use OEM clamps on the new hoses so I am afraid that part of the car is not original. If you would like a high res version of that B&W photo, let me know I will e-mail you one.

John
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Garry on April 13, 2011, 04:33:30
Thanks John,

Correct me if i am wrong but there appear to only be 7 5mm wind up hose clamps as marked on the photo.  In checking the B & W photo that appears to be the lot?
Garry
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on April 13, 2011, 11:21:34
Hi, Garry,

It seems to me that the water hose clips use a wider band (9mm ?) as compared to the 5mm band on the vacuum hoses.

Naj
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Jonny B on April 13, 2011, 15:15:45
I believe Naj is correct. There are two sizes for the bands 5 mm and 9 mm. The 5 mm is used on the vacuum line to the booster, while the heater line has the 9 mm bands. You would just buy however many meters of each, and the number of cotter style clamps you need.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Garry on April 13, 2011, 22:36:49
So just to confirm, there are 5 5mm clamps and 2 9mm clamps for the correct fit in the 280?

Garry
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Jordan on April 14, 2011, 00:11:30
Garry, you will need 6 clamps for the vacuum line to the booster.  I recently replaced that line as well as the clamps.  I am assuming it isn't any different than the 230SL, one clamp at the exhaust manifold, one either side of the foot valve, one either side of the plastic fluid collector and one at the brake booster, for a total of six.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Garry on April 14, 2011, 01:30:26
Thanks Jordan, naj and John and JohnnyB for info.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on April 14, 2011, 07:23:47

So just to confirm, 2 9mm clamps for the correct fit in the 280?

Garry

Garry,

2 on each end of the heater matrix hoses (= 4)

I believe there are 4 more under the dash for the airbox drain pipes as well (but they don't show!!)

Naj
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: Garry on April 14, 2011, 08:35:35
Thanks Naj,

Have ordered from a fellow restorer in New Zealand.  Not going to do under the dash, that is just pushing correctness too far for me!!!
The photos by John "49er" are very originally correct and a fantastic resource and I suspect making many on the forum again look at what they have got or has been done over the last 40+ years.
Title: Re: More vintage photos - my 280SL
Post by: thelews on April 14, 2011, 12:44:25
With all this focus on correctness, is the club doing a judging at PUB this year?