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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: Theo on March 05, 2011, 06:20:11

Title: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Theo on March 05, 2011, 06:20:11
Does anyone know the paint code for the color referred to as "Old English White"?  It seems (???) to have been a factory color for 1966 in Europe.

Theo
66 230SL
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: 66andBlue on March 05, 2011, 06:27:02
Hi Theo,
it is doubtful that this was an official Mercedes color name.
If you haven't discovered it, take a look in our Technical Manual right here, you'll be surprised what you can find out about Pagodas, including paint codes and colors:
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/DataCard/PaintCodes
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Theo on March 05, 2011, 06:41:08
Thanks, 66:  Mine was delivered as 050 (not sure to what extent it has retained it).  Do you know what is difference between 050 and 171- they look the same from the pix on the site, but mine is verging slightly toward beige.  Is 171 whiter than 050, do you know?
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Jordan on March 05, 2011, 14:00:44
Theo, yes I believe 171 is whiter than 050.  My car is 171 and I don't know how it could get any whiter.  I know the colour is correct because I ordered a tube of 171 touch up paint and it matches perfectly.  I saw a 230SL at auction last year that was 050.  If the colour was correct it looked like it had a ivory tint to it.  I would not have called it white to look at it.  Maybe someone that has an 050 can comment.
Title: Papyrus white
Post by: 114015 on March 05, 2011, 15:33:35
Quote
...yes I believe 171 is whiter than 050.  My car is 171 and I don't know how it could get any whiter. ...

Uhem .... :o

717 - papyrus white

IMHO

A.

Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: J. Huber on March 05, 2011, 16:46:28
I would characterize 717 (papyrus) white as less bright white than 050. Mine is 717 -- but when I had it repainted, the Guy said, "we can match it pretty close..." Well, you get what you pay for ... for 1300 dollars (1997), I got what I swear is a shade whiter. I didn't do the dash and with a discerning eye you can see the difference. The 050 you saw Marcus must have been a light ivory 670. A very nice white but in different lights, looks more yellowy. The tech manual has some decent pictures showing the codes.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Jordan on March 05, 2011, 17:33:57
Achim, yes I must have had a dyslexic moment. :-[  Of course it is 717.  I would love to see a 717 next to a 050 to see the comparison.  Maybe this summer at PUB11.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: J. Huber on March 06, 2011, 01:52:22
Not sure if these pictures add anything (other than a good laugh) but


The first one shows my car on the left next to a 050 (the Honorable George Davis's 280)... Mine is every bit as white I think.

The second shows mine before I painted it -- when it was a true 717. As you can see by my very white duds, it was sort of an off-white.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: perry113 on March 06, 2011, 13:54:59
Hi.
Here is a car that is paint code 050. This was an absolutely stunning 230SL that I had a chance to look at closely a few years ago. It more white than my 670 light ivory.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: 49er on March 06, 2011, 15:15:47
My 69 280Sl is painted 050. Here is a photo taken last week showing the contrast between the car and my very white garage doors. The paint on the car  is original (42+ years old).

john

PS I liked your leisure suit James. Mine is packed away somewhere:-)
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: thelews on March 06, 2011, 15:16:59
I'll lay money that 050 white was one of the most popular colored 113s.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: 49er on March 06, 2011, 15:53:35
I'll lay money that 050 white was one of the most popular colored 113s.

 They sure were in Southern California! Thick as fleas back then:-)

John
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: MRB43 on March 07, 2011, 23:15:02
Here is one more to add to the growing list of 050 White pagodas. 
Mine is a '70 280 SL with 133 Lt Red MB-Tex interior.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Peter van Es on March 08, 2011, 10:10:23
The second shows mine before I painted it -- when it was a true 717. As you can see by my very white duds, it was sort of an off-white.

James... what year was that picture taken?
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: J. Huber on March 08, 2011, 14:41:56
That would be circa June 1980.

Still by my side 31 years later... I look older -- but it doesn't.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Peter van Es on March 08, 2011, 22:30:53
Hope you are NOT referring to the suit...
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: mb280slmex on March 10, 2011, 01:26:05
Dear friends, from Mexico City, I join the group of 050 white mine es 230 SL 1966 and 050 is actually the color much less white than 717, I would say is a ligth cream color.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: mb280slmex on March 10, 2011, 01:33:44
Dear friends, from Mexico City I join the group of 050 white, mine is 230 SL 1966 and 050 is actually the color much less white than 717, i would say is a light cream color.
Dear friends, from Mexico City, I join the group of 050 white mine es 230 SL 1966 and 050 is actually the color much less white than 717, I would say is a ligth cream color.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: mb280slmex on March 10, 2011, 01:48:20
050 WHITE TALKING, SOMEONE CAN TELL ME WHERE I CAN BUY A TUBE TO REPAINT SOME PARTS, SEND ME WEBSITE PLESE
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Jonny B on March 10, 2011, 12:23:51
One source I have used in www.paintscratch.com.
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: Garry on March 10, 2011, 22:21:29
I have got a touch up paint pen from them and it works well.  They will not sell the spray can paint out side USA due to the postage by airmail problem with pressure packs.

Garry
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: 114015 on March 10, 2011, 23:58:08
Paint ?  :o

Hey mb280SLmex,

From what I am aware, 050 "white" was always delivered by Glasurit (the "G" in the paint code) and not by Herberts (the "H")

Here:

http://color-online.glasurit.com/CCC/?language=8

Will probably be tough to find a good shop in Afghanistan ...

Good luck

Achim
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: mb280slmex on March 11, 2011, 00:47:56
One source I have used in www.paintscratch.com.
Jonny
Thank you very much for your help.
Jorge
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: mb280slmex on March 11, 2011, 01:02:37
Paint ?  :o

Hey mb280SLmex,

From what I am aware, 050 "white" was always delivered by Glasurit (the "G" in the paint code) and not by Herberts (the "H")

Here:

http://color-online.glasurit.com/CCC/?language=8

Will probably be tough to find a good shop in Afghanistan ...

Good luck

Achim


Dear Achim.
You are right the correct code is G050 and "G" is effectively Glausurit.
Unable to get this color or any color in Afghanistan, by an error appears on my id record should be Mexico City......
anyway Muchas Gracias mi amigo.....
Jorge
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: mb280slmex on March 11, 2011, 01:10:16
I have got a touch up paint pen from them and it works well.  They will not sell the spray can paint out side USA due to the postage by airmail problem with pressure packs.

Garry

Garry,
Thanks and Congratulation on your web site.
Jorge
Title: Re: Paint code for "Old English White"
Post by: pj on March 17, 2011, 20:26:04
Hi all,
my 1965 230SL is also 050. I haven't parked it side by side with a 717 yet, but I had the impression that 717 is a whiter shade of white, too. Marcus, I hope we have a chance to compare soon.

--Peter