Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: rmmchl on March 02, 2011, 00:51:58

Title: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: rmmchl on March 02, 2011, 00:51:58: the headlight housing that screws into the front fender recess, that holds the headlight were rusted and I misplaced them. There are 4 of them. Does anyone know the size and kind of these screws? Are they metric ? self tapping? metal ?
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Post by: badali on March 02, 2011, 01:39:08: Are these the screws? I think they are sheet metal but someone can verify from my photo.
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Post by: rmmchl on March 02, 2011, 01:45:11: yes, those are the ones-are they metric, or just plain metal screws?----------thank you
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Post by: badali on March 02, 2011, 01:59:52: I think they are metal screws??? but I did not remove them when I installed the new bezels. Maybe someone will chime in to verify.
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Post by: rmmchl on March 02, 2011, 02:24:09: it seems like there is a definite threaded hole in the fender. Like they are for a certain size screw.
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: Benz Dr. on March 02, 2011, 06:27:11: Hey Mike,
they're not self taping and are maybe 3mm, philips head, and probably stainless steel. If you can't find those then use regular machine screws with lots of anti seize.
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Post by: rmmchl on March 02, 2011, 12:45:38: thanks you -Dr. Benz!
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on March 02, 2011, 13:42:21: Mine had 4mm screws with a small head.

I had the brass ones machine to suit.

Naj
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Post by: rmmchl on March 03, 2011, 02:14:50: naj, those screws do look proprietory----where can i buy them???
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Post by: Ron on March 03, 2011, 05:00:57: My car had sheet metal screws in it when purchased, but the holes are threaded. I purchased stainless steel machine screws at the local hardware store, and they work great. I used phillips head, as I'm clumsy and the "cross" helps me keep the screwdriver from slipping off and damaging paint somewhere.
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on March 03, 2011, 09:38:50: Quote from: rmmchl on March 03, 2011, 02:14:50

naj, those screws do look proprietory----where can i buy them???

Try A 111 990 0121 from an MB dealer.

Naj
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: ja17 on March 04, 2011, 04:41:14: Hello,

Yes, as indicated by Dan, I also believe these are originally phillips head screws.
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Post by: badali on March 04, 2011, 13:12:01: From what I see mine are most likely the original screws. Notice the marking in the headlight bucket.
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Post by: rmmchl on March 04, 2011, 16:45:53: naj----I called my merc dealer and gave them the part number you gave me.----------I'll be visiting my local auto parts store for those 4mm screws-----the dealer wants $12.00 each for those screws........they come from germany-can you believe that?-------------$48.88 for 8 screws?-wow!-------------------thanks again
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on March 04, 2011, 17:06:48: Hi, Rmmchl,

That explains why I used ordinary brass screws and had the heads and the threadless tips machined to suit.

I have now found some steel cheesehead screws which have a similar size head to the original.

I agree that original screws are phillips head (there is one in my original picture), but the head on a normal phillips screw is too big and does not fit well on the headlight frame.

I think the original concern has been whether the screws were self tappers or not because the EPC and some parts books for the 113s show self tapping screws.

Naj
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: 114015 on March 04, 2011, 23:02:10: A111 990 0121

€ 4,53 incl. VAT. :o

Wow ....
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Post by: Benz Dr. on March 05, 2011, 00:15:22: Quote from: 114015 on March 04, 2011, 23:02:10
A111 990 0121

€ 4,53 incl. VAT. :o

Wow ....

UHHhhhhh....... yeah.....

As Tim Kidder once said, '' The guy who comes up with your pricing must be smoking crack before he goes to work. ''

He actually sent that to MB in an email. It was sent off to Germany for further discussion. From what he tells me they haven't replied yet............ and that was about 3 years ago. You gotta love that guy - he shoots straight from the hip.

I priced a rear muffler for a 450 SL the other day. MBC list price was $507.00 - it's now $713.00!
I know you can get them after market, but really; 700 bucks for a muffler? On a 450SL?
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: rmmchl on March 05, 2011, 01:49:05: dan-dr. benz-------------that is so funny about the muffler--------please don't ask them how much the other pipes and hangers are!-ha ha ha------------------
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: rmmchl on March 05, 2011, 01:51:58: hey dr. benz-tell your client it could have been worse----------at least the 450sl's aren't dual exhaust--------ha ha
Title: Re: headlight housing brackett screws
Post by: rmmchl on March 05, 2011, 17:40:34: naj-I think dr benz was correct in saying they were 3mm screws-I bought some 4mm today and they were too wide