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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Research & Development => Topic started by: davids on February 09, 2011, 20:44:15

Title: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 09, 2011, 20:44:15

Is it possible to put a diesel into a w113 71 280sl . What year doner car do I need and do I have to change the wiring harness.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: dtuttle123 on February 09, 2011, 20:53:46

Reach out to Walter Klatt in the forum - he has made this diesel conversion, is our resident expert on the topic, and an all around great guy!

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 10, 2011, 14:26:40

how do i get to walter?

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 10, 2011, 14:36:41

I was told to talk to walter how do I get ahold of walter?

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 10, 2011, 14:39:27

how do I get ahold of walter?

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: dtuttle123 on February 10, 2011, 14:53:19

Sent you a PM with his e-mail address.  Within the forum, you can seach and find other members and send them messages off-line.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 10, 2011, 15:16:40

can you give me his email address again? thanks for your help.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: Leester on February 10, 2011, 17:50:04

I'm sure Walter will see this before long. I should be meeting up with him in the next few days and I will mention it to him.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: hauser on February 10, 2011, 17:52:46

Here's the link to his profile.  Just send him a message.

http://www.sl113.org/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=357

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 10, 2011, 17:59:54

thx

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: davids on February 10, 2011, 18:00:51

thx.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: Rolland on February 10, 2011, 18:52:44

his screen name is waltklatt.  I've communicated with him in the past on private messages.

Rolland

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: Peter van Es on February 10, 2011, 19:03:17

Dear davids...

1. Please in future refrain from posting the same question in multiple areas... select the right one, and only post ONCE!
2. I've merged all your messages and responses...
3. Read the Help...

Peter

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: waltklatt on February 10, 2011, 22:19:46

Thanks to all the replies.
David, I am now writing an email to you.
Check your PM folder (My Messages) on the tab listing.
Walter

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: philip on April 25, 2011, 15:37:16

Warning. The engines you could use from that era would be from a W114 or W123 the 240D or 300D but beware they do not start easily after a few years and especially when it is cold they even have a more powerful starter to help with this problem .So if you have to go to diesel try one of the late model diesels with  modern technology .

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: scoot on April 26, 2011, 04:36:45

Quote from: philip on April 25, 2011, 15:37:16

Warning. The engines you could use from that era would be from a W114 or W123 the 240D or 300D but beware they do not start easily after a few years and especially when it is cold they even have a more powerful starter to help with this problem .So if you have to go to diesel try one of the late model diesels with  modern technology .

?  There is no reason a good 1970s MB diesel is going to be prone to starting problems that I know of.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: stickandrudderman on April 27, 2011, 20:53:36

Ditto.

Title: Re: diesel conversion on 71 280sl?
Post by: jacovdw on April 29, 2011, 14:29:18

I couldn't agree more with Scott and Stick's comments regarding the earlier diesel engines as used in the W115's and W123's.

Injectors and glow plugs don't last forever and the quality of the diesel used also plays a major role in the longevity of said components. Neglect to properly maintain these older diesel engines usually is responsible for the myth that these engines are hard to start and temperamental. Neglect (i.e. failure to adhere to regular oil change intervals) also lead to premature wear of the cylinder/rings and hence lower compression and increased blow by which contributes to the difficulty in starting the engine.

The more powerful starter is used to overcome the higher compression ratio of diesel engines and not because they are inherently more difficult to start after a few years.

Lastly, W114's don't have diesel engines, only 6 cylinder gasoline engines. W115's have 4 cylinder gasoline and 4 or 5 cylinder diesel engines.