Pagoda SL Group
W113 Pagoda SL Group => Drive train, fuel, suspension, steering & brakes => Topic started by: bootes on September 29, 2010, 15:07:55
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My shift plate is rattling and needs to be replaced. My original boot is ripped just a little so I can see down in there that the shift plate is loose. I've read the the original boots were stitched onto the carpet. I've also read a thread on this website that suggests the boot is glued on; and I've seen a pic here that suggests that the boot is held in place by 4 screws. Can someone offer advice as to how to get to the shift plate w/o ruining the boot? Does anyone know if the boots are stitched, glued or screwed?
Thanks! Rick
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Was wondering the same as I need to replace my torn shifter boot.
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Rick, have a look in the tech manual here http://www.sl113.org/wiki/TransmissionClutch/Shifter.
There is an upper boot (the rubber piece that sticks above the carpet, and a lower boot that you cannot see unless you start taking apart the shifter. I replaced my shifter bushings about 6 months ago and took all of this apart. My shifter boot (upper) just has the lower lip tucked under the carpet. It is not secured in any other fashion, at least not mine. Below the boot is a plate held down by 4 screws, which may be what you are referring to in your comment below. If your boot is attached to the carpet you will need to remove the shifter knob and then lift the centre carpet along with the boot to get at the plate below. You can then have a closer look as to how the boot is attached to the carpet. If you replace the boot I would suggest not securing it down except to tuck the bottom lip under the carpet. The carpet should not be glued down but you may need to give it a good tug if it is being held in place by the emergency brake and tucked under the floor carpets. It is a relatively simple fix to get at the shifter parts and replace whatever it is needs replacing. If you have the area opened up you may want to replace all the bushings while you are in there, if they haven't ever been replaced or your shifter is really loose.
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thanks guys! very helpful. does all the carpet have to be removed?
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The carpet over the centre tunnel should come out as 1 piece. That is the only piece of carpet you should have to remove.
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thanks Jordan.
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My shifter boot (upper) just has the lower lip tucked under the carpet. It is not secured in any other fashion, at least not mine. Below the boot is a plate held down by 4 screws, which may be what you are referring to in your comment below. If your boot is attached to the carpet you will need to remove the shifter knob and then lift the centre carpet along with the boot to get at the plate below. You can then have a closer look as to how the boot is attached to the carpet. If you replace the boot I would suggest not securing it down except to tuck the bottom lip under the carpet. The carpet should not be glued down but you may need to give it a good tug if it is being held in place by the emergency brake and tucked under the floor carpets. It is a relatively simple fix to get at the shifter parts and replace whatever it is needs replacing. If you have the area opened up you may want to replace all the bushings while you are in there, if they haven't ever been replaced or your shifter is really loose.
Hmmm. My shifter boot is torn and what remains appears to be permanently affixed to the carpet. You say the lower lip of yours is tucked under the carpet while the upper lip sits over the carpet? Does your boot stay put this way?
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My shifter boot is not attached to the carpet. If you refer to the figure I reference above (click on link) the bottom of the shifter boot (274) wraps around the top of part 272 (lip along the round opening). This holds the boot in place. The carpet is then reinstalled and the boot and shifter should stick up through the hole in the carpet. The carpet will sit flush with the bottom of the boot. To replace the boot you will need to remove the shift knob, which is a chore in itself.
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Finally getting to this shift plate project tonight. Attached some pics. I compared to Andres G's pics posted awhile back and it looks as though I may have lost a washer or two that holds shift plate nuts in place?? It was rattling quite a bit for quite some time but shifting function was fine. From the pics I've attached, what parts should I order while everything is apart or any other maintenance? I will replace the runner boot for sure as it has been ripped for some time.
Also, I've attached a pic of the stitching around the hole for the shift boot (original carpet). I know there was some confusion whether the boot was attached to the carpet, etc.
Any advice appreciated. Thanks.
Rick
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having a hard time with additional options/attach; 4 attachments all < 225KB each? have to figure out and try again later
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sorry. got it on the pics. I was looking at my top (original) post vs. my latest post with pics in which I had to scroll down for - duh!
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Hi, Rick,
You're missing two bushes 111 992 0310 that go on the shifter plate.
You may want to change all the shifter bushes while in there.
See:
http://www.sl113.org/wiki/TransmissionClutch/Shifter#ManualShifter
for details
Naj
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Naj, thank you!
Would you suggest removing the front end cover where the gearbox end yoke is and check the bushings there (saw where Andres suggests this in a post from last year)? I haven't removed the tunnel carpeting all the way off.
Also, if you don't mind looking back at picture 3 where the shift plate is lifted. There is a rubber grommet immediately under the shift plate. It's fairly tattered. Would you suggest replacing this as well? If so, I don't see how to get the new one on after presumably cutting off the older one?
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Rick, I would recommend replacing all the bushings (front as well) since you are in there, as well as any rubber or plastic parts that look worn. Just make note of which bushings go where as you take them apart. Check out the wiki as Naj suggests. The bushings aren't that expensive. I replaced all mine last year and you will no doubt feel the difference. It's a tight fit but can be done from the top.