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W113 Pagoda SL Group => General Discussion => Topic started by: wd on March 04, 2010, 01:56:42

Title: steel suppliers?
Post by: wd on March 04, 2010, 01:56:42
I was reading another link where someone, jokingly I think, mentioned that his pagoda was resurrected from an old Sherman tank.  That set me to wondering what was the source of the steel for these cars?  I belong to a couple of luger collector forums and those guys definitely research the steel used in the different models and makers.  As little as it may matter in Pagoda land is there any information on this?
Title: Re: steel suppliers?
Post by: treedoc on March 04, 2010, 03:27:20
More likely from a Panzerkampwagen Tiger, hopefully not from a Russian T34
Title: Re: steel suppliers?
Post by: RickM on March 04, 2010, 16:37:29
More likely from a Panzerkampwagen ...

Right on. FWIU, this is what the factory workers jokingly called the 107...

Title: Re: steel suppliers?
Post by: glenn on March 09, 2010, 04:29:00
The 111 was the (Sherman) M4 ?.??
Title: Re: steel suppliers?
Post by: mdsalemi on March 10, 2010, 14:38:18
Well, back to actually considering the question that WD proposed...

The major German steel supplier today is ThyssenKrupp.  Back in the 1960's it was probably a bit smaller and several smaller companies conglomerated to form the large one.  They are a major supplier of hot and cold rolled steel in Germany, so my guess is that they were at least one of the steel suppliers, and I bet there was a second source as well, maybe a third source such as Saarstahl, Boeker & Wender, and others.  There has been a LOT of changes to the steel industry in the past 50 years and all the companies names are changing.

While I have no facts to back it up, just intuition, I suspect that steel recycling (i.e. old military hardware) was not as prevalent in western countries in the 1960's as it is today, and many companies probably specified "virgin" steel.  The old joke around here is that old Chevy's get sent to Japan for recycling into Toyotas, as a lot of Japanese steel was recycled and China basically didn't have a manufacturing presence.
Title: Re: steel suppliers?
Post by: hauser on March 10, 2010, 17:13:37
Pound for pound or Kg for Kg I believe the Ferdinand aka The Elephant might provide more Pagodas than any other tank out there.

http://www.dday-overlord.com/eng/elephant_tank.htm

More on battle tanks.

http://www.battletanks.com/elephant1.htm