Pagoda SL Group

W113 Pagoda SL Group => Body, interior, paint, chrome, and cosmetic items => Topic started by: gzmavian on December 24, 2009, 02:39:52

Title: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: gzmavian on December 24, 2009, 02:39:52

We just shook things up with the front fender notches.  What is the significance or devaluation of a pagoda if the exterior paint color and interior have be restored to another color combination that does not match the data card?  This has been a common practice amongst many vintage restorations outside of the pagoda world.  Any thoughts ?

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: Richard Madison on December 24, 2009, 13:30:51

The affect of color change on value was discussed fairy recently...maybe a search for "color" or "colour" "paint" and "value" or "price" will locate that message.

Richard M, NYC

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: gzmavian on December 24, 2009, 19:41:05

Thanks Richard.  Cheers for the holidays!

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: john.mancini on December 30, 2009, 20:06:57

Just out of curiosity, what is the original exterior color and interior trim color?
John

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: gzmavian on December 31, 2009, 19:51:08

originally tobacco brown exterior  and cognac interior.  Presently Midnight blue with ivory interior.

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: abe280SL on January 02, 2010, 19:02:28

I think if its done well and you are not entering Pebble Beach...your okay.  I rather buy a nicely restored car with the color that I want than using original colors that I may not like.
abe

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: w113dude on January 02, 2010, 19:10:36

Quote

I rather buy a nicely restored car with the color that I want than using original colors that I may not like.

My sentiments exactly.

Title: Re: Significance of changing colors from original with restoration
Post by: mdsalemi on January 05, 2010, 13:15:11

Quote from: abe280SL on January 02, 2010, 19:02:28

I think if its done well and you are not entering Pebble Beach...your okay.  I rather buy a nicely restored car with the color that I want than using original colors that I may not like.
abe

Abe, while I understand that your comment about Pebble Beach was not really that serious, let me offer a few facts about Pebble Beach...and other national and international Concours d'Elegance.

1)  Extremely unlikely that any Pagoda will warrant more than a smile and nod from the judges.  It may attract all manner of visitor interest, but that's about it.  They are filler.
2)  The judges at such events probably would not know much about original colors on these cars, or how to verify them.  An MBCA Concours, or one at a European "Old Timer's Club" specializing in MB, certainly...but doubtful at Pebble.
3)  The cars that win at events such as Pebble Beach, Hilton Head, Amelia Island, Meadow Brook et al are quite often restored to an extreme state and sometimes in colors that are not original.  Originality might even be difficult or impossible to find, as many of the "classic" marques featured custom, non-factory coachwork often from very small shops or craftsmen.