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W113 Pagoda SL Group => Research & Development => Topic started by: Naj ✝︎ on November 18, 2009, 12:52:02

Title: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: Naj ✝︎ on November 18, 2009, 12:52:02
Here's another one to peruse.

http://www.auto-kromm.de/pagode/album/index.html

naj
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: Ulf on November 20, 2009, 09:50:12
Normally, I'm not to fond of non-original cars, but as far as I'm able to read German, it's a reproduction of a 6,3 Pagoda prototype that was build by Mercedes in 1967 that also included the air suspension and was used to test various components. The original served as a courier car before it was scrapped. Regardless of the "originality" of this project, the level of craftsmanship going into this is impressive...
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: JamesL on November 22, 2009, 10:25:39
Or a Brabus Pagoda - albeit not "Brabus'd"

http://www.brabus.com/en/cars4sale.php?id=11747&kategorie=3 (http://www.brabus.com/en/cars4sale.php?id=11747&kategorie=3)
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: jameshoward on November 22, 2009, 13:43:28
It's a nice looking car - but clearly the excellent photography helps.

Is this an original colour, and if so, what is the colour? I like it a lot, but would only consider it if it's an option available when built.

Any ideas?

JH
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: glenn on November 23, 2009, 14:25:16
Liked the 'engine in/out from below'.  Anybody done this personally?
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: 114015 on November 23, 2009, 20:44:21
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Is this an original colour, and if so, what is the colour? I like it a lot, but would only consider it if it's an option available when built.

Hello James,
Yes, he mentioned "Arabergrau" on his homepage. That is Arabian grey, DB 124 and a period colour code for the 113 :D; I think it was available throughout all build years of the pagoda. AFAIK Rodd (Masteller)'s 230 is Arabian grey as well.

Looks definitely nice - nice understatement. Not as flashy as some of the (Pagoda) fashion colours... ;)

Achim
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: stickandrudderman on November 26, 2009, 17:25:40
Absolutely fantastic craftsmanship! Where on earth do people find the money and the time for a project like that?
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: badali on November 26, 2009, 17:52:18
Glenn,  I took one out of a 4.5 this way.  It was fairly simple to remove.
Brad
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3 Lift??
Post by: glenn on December 03, 2009, 00:33:07
Brad, How did you lift the body off the front, engine, etc? 
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: bpossel on December 03, 2009, 01:03:47
Hi Glenn,

If you disconnect the drive shaft, exhaust, steering, brake connections, etc...  the only thing holding the front end in are the shocks and the sub frame mounts.  Sort of scary!
Bob  :)
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: glenn on December 03, 2009, 04:30:34
Bob et al,  How do I lift the chassis off the engine?   A come-along on the roof rafters lifting the chassis,  jack up the whole body,  ???
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: badali on December 03, 2009, 09:37:09
Glenn,
I used my cherry picker.  Look at the picture and you can see the hook in the front bumper mount.  I swung the car side ways over top then set it down.  The car is not very heavy once it is stripped and I could move it around even without the wheels.
Brad
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: w113dude on December 03, 2009, 13:29:56
I took my engine & front end out the same way, I have a luxury of owning a forklift that I used to lift the front nose for easy access.
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: Carlito on April 09, 2010, 17:43:51
Saw this car at Techno Classica Essen yesterday.
They did a magnificent job with it, Although I don't think I'm ever going to do it, an original 280SL is rewarding enough to drive
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: Peter van Es on April 09, 2010, 19:40:21
Was it for sale?
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: Carlito on April 09, 2010, 21:38:41
No, just a promotional stunt from one of the magazines to draw attention to their stand
Title: Re: Pagoda 6.3
Post by: 114015 on April 19, 2010, 12:38:24
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Was it for sale?

Hello Peter,

At Essen I had the chance to look at the car and talk to Christian Kromm, the creator and restorer of this fine machine.
AFAIK or was told the car was supposed to be sold.

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No, just a promotional stunt from one of the magazines to draw attention to their stand

At the "Oldtimer Markt" booth. This is the most famous and largest German speaking classic car magazine.

They presented the top story of this 280 SL 6.3 in their April 2010 issue.
Very nice to read - especially that 79 year old Erich Waxenberger and creator of the original '67 280 SL 6.3 factory prototype drove this current unique car and was very pleased how much Mr. Kromm had optimised the idea of the original and destroyed 6.3 pagoda prototype from the 60ies.
With the air suspension the car is supposed to have the correct handling that the 60ies prototype did not have.

A very fine machine indeed and very tasteful in Arabergrau - green leather.

Achim